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Genzler Amplification Club
- Thread starter Discount Saint
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This rig sounded so dang good tonight. Chewy was the perfect way to describe it. My guitarist kept commenting how it had “the sound”. I love my NC212, but this 610 gets the call for outdoor shows.
Jeff, my 9 year old son asks where you're at on the big rig 4x12. He also says that a 6x10 would be acceptable as well. 
Yeah I’ll happily sell the fender for a tilt-back NC610 cause I like a matching head and cab setupJeff, my 9 year old son asks where you're at on the big rig 4x12. He also says that a 6x10 would be acceptable as well.
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Welp…..after the first Kinetix gig with the country band….all is beyond great. I told the guys I had a new amp but didn’t go in to details. About 4 songs into the first set the drummer looks at me and asks….”is it just me or does your bass sound have a fatter tone to it? It sounds amazing.” This is one of our monthly stops so we’re all used to the nuances of this particular room. During our first break I was able to explain the Kinetix to him and let him know what he was hearing. All the guys loved it and could hear (and feel) the difference. Saturday I was back with the R&B group. For the country stuff ‘fat’ is a great setting but with the other group ‘lean’ seems to work best. I’ll be out of town for the 4th so I’ll have a sub for a gig I will miss but the Kinetix is going to get a good workout all the way until mid September. Lots of hot/humid outdoor central TX gigs in the works!
Jeff Genzler
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Awesome comments. Glad the new head is working out for your gigs.
What are your thoughts about the "why" of this observation? My take is "lean" is better when the music entails a complex mix of instruments and voices, while "fat" helps fill out a less detailed mix. These factors are often at play when I've used other amps with a separate HPF -- higher HPF setting (towards 70, 80 or 90Hz) for complex mixes, lower setting (toward 50-35Hz) for simpler mix (not accounting for room requirements).
I am getting the same reaction from my band mates. I have never had a piece of gear that got compliments from drummers or guitarists. Usuallly just other bassists. It makes me feel good about my Kinetix purchase!
Jeff Genzler
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I would agree with your comments here. I would not catagorize this by music per se, but yes, a complex mix usually would warrant a setting more towards the LEAN side. And of course, stage or room acoustics would play heavily into this as well. We do feel its nice to have the options on the Kinetix and all settings still keep the tube feel and complexity.
I need some help I finally decided to take the plunge and buy a new amp and cabinets. For the last 35 years I have played an Eden WT 550 and Eden 410 XLT I play Warwick and Music Man active basses. I play primarily 90s alternative and Nu Metal. We play in medium to small clubs and I always have FOH to back me up. I love the way the Bass Array cabinets sound and I prefer 10 inch drivers. I’m thinking that a Magellan 800 and a BA2-210-3 would work for what I do. i’m just not sure as there is no place close to me for me to be able to try one.
I would go kinetix over the Magellan for more aggressive style of music.
Where are you located?
If you go with the Magellan, go with the new 800+
I have the 800 and the Kinetix as well as 3 12-3 arrays. I enjoy all but really love the tube warmth i get from the Kinetix. I haven't tried the 800+ but don't doubt it is also an excellent amp. I've been playing for 59 yrs and have had a lot of different gear but the Genzler stuff is top notch in all aspects.
I think for me part of it is the basses I choose. In the country band I use the Sadowsky and in the R&B group I have been using my Peavey TL-Five. The Sadowsky has a punch to it so running the 'fat' setting just adds some depth to that already punchy tone. The TL has more of the scooped sound to it so running the 'lean' setting seems to work best for that bass. With the R&B group I use a few different sounds from rolling up to the front p/u, slapping/popping and rolling a little to the back p/u for that punchy sound. I'm able to use the EQ on the bass to get the tones but the 'lean' setting on the amp is a great foundation for me to start with.
I did use the 'fat' setting on my previous R&B gig but we were playing at much lower volumes so it worked out....but the settings I listed above are probably how it will go for our normal volume gigs.
Anyone near Seattle or willing to ship and has a clean NuClassic 2-10 that they are wanting to part with??
I believe Guitar Center Atlanta, GA carries Genzler Amplification bass amplifier heads.
How is that they come up with describing a speaker cab as a combo amp? GC can be pretty daffy at times. But that's a great deal of that cab.
