Genzler Amplification Club

[Jeff Genzler]

Cool to see so many people using their 350 combos for ABG; I use mine for an acoustic trio with a Breedlove bass. This is a 'bring your own everything' situation with no PA, so I run a small Mackie mixer to the Aux input for a vocal mic to blend with my bass. The array sounds great on voice too!
Jeff mentioned an acoustic combo that is in development; not sure if he meant acoustic bass or guitar... but, if that were to include a second channel with mic input and reverb I'd be all over it. Something like the Fishman loudbox (two identical mic / instrument channels, reverb and chorus, notch filter, phantom power etc...) but designed to handle bass would be fantastic. Then I wouldn't have to carry and set up a separate mixer.

OK, you might want to put your name on an Acoustic Array PRO once they are available. They have all of the features you mention above and would be a nice amp for Acoustic Bass----offering you the additional channel for mic use. This is described as an Acoustic Guitar combo but design for a wide range of acoustic instruments. You should hear it with a violin and cello. Handles upright for most average duty as well. For pure double bass use I would stay with the MG350-BA10-COMBO.

 

[Daveypoo]

Check it!

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[cavemanbass]

OK, you might want to put your name on an Acoustic Array PRO once they are available. They have all of the features you mention above and would be a nice amp for Acoustic Bass----offering you the additional channel for mic use. This is described as an Acoustic Guitar combo but design for a wide range of acoustic instruments. You should hear it with a violin and cello. Handles upright for most average duty as well. For pure double bass use I would stay with the MG350-BA10-COMBO.

Thanks Jeff, look forward to checking one out! Does the new combo use the same drivers as the BA 10-2, and will the form factor be such that I can stack it on top of my current BA10-2? Is it an all-in-one combo, or is the head detachable / available separately and how much power?

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Thanks Jeff, look forward to checking one out! Does the new combo use the same drivers as the BA 10-2, and will the form factor be such that I can stack it on top of my current BA10-2? Is it an all-in-one combo, or is the head detachable / available separately and how much power?

@cavemanbass I've attached an image so you can get a better idea of the form factor. This would sit on top of your BA10-2 cab. The Acoustic ArrayPRO does use a different 10" woofer than the BA cab but the line array component is identical. The chassis is not removable. This is a 175W/Combo and 300W with an extension cabinet. I hope this helps.

 

[cavemanbass]

@cavemanbass I've attached an image so you can get a better idea of the form factor. This would sit on top of your BA10-2 cab. The Acoustic ArrayPRO does use a different 10" woofer than the BA cab but the line array component is identical. The chassis is not removable. This is a 175W/Combo and 300W with an extension cabinet. I hope this helps.

Looks sweet, thanks!

 

[Tdub77]

@cavemanbass I've attached an image so you can get a better idea of the form factor. This would sit on top of your BA10-2 cab. The Acoustic ArrayPRO does use a different 10" woofer than the BA cab but the line array component is identical. The chassis is not removable. This is a 175W/Combo and 300W with an extension cabinet. I hope this helps.

Thats a crazy looking head attached to that. Maybe hinting at another separate head?

 

[Lammchop93]

I cant get over the low-end from my MG212T. It sounds like an Ampeg 8X10!! Just for fun, I turned my bass knob on my spector bass all the way up, and played the low B string. I think I shook the foundation of my house! I only had my darkglass m900 was only 25% up.

 

[Bassworship1]

I'm amazed how much low end with clarity all the Genzler cabinets have. My Warriors sound like a cannon when I play the B string and they handle anything I throw at them with ease. Even using just one of my 112-3's or one of the 210-3 arrays they handle anything you put through them.

 

[Ryan L.]

I cant get over the low-end from my MG212T. It sounds like an Ampeg 8X10!! Just for fun, I turned my bass knob on my spector bass all the way up, and played the low B string. I think I shook the foundation of my house! I only had my darkglass m900 was only 25% up.

It's honestly amazing just how much low end, without getting boomy or mushy, that little box is capable of. I'm firmly convinced, after many, many gigs, that it's the best cab I've ever owned. And I've owned a lot of cabs over the last 26 years I've been doing this.

Add the MG112T to it, and it becomes a whole 'nother beast entirely. Bigger, punchier, and stupid loud if needed/wanted.

 

[dwellers]

Hey...quick question: if you put two of the BA cabs next to each other, do you get the "acoustic coupling" effect that you get when stacking? Is it proximity or is it important that they be on top of one another?

Thanks!

 

[ahc]

Hey...quick question: if you put two of the BA cabs next to each other, do you get the "acoustic coupling" effect that you get when stacking? Is it proximity or is it important that they be on top of one another?

Thanks!

The one thing I'm pretty sure you won't get is the dispersion from the arrays. The cabs will "beam" the mids and highs if they're next to each other. Sort of defeats the purpose of the array. As for "coupling", I'm not sure but I don't think so.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Hey...quick question: if you put two of the BA cabs next to each other, do you get the "acoustic coupling" effect that you get when stacking? Is it proximity or is it important that they be on top of one another?

Thanks!

@dwellers, as stated by @ahc, I would not recommend this configuration of these cabinets for optimum performance. When you stack any like cabinets on top of each other, you get coupling of the drivers. With the Bass Array design, you get this in "spades" so to speak.
Along with the woofers coupling, the alignment of the 2 line array columns in a direct line, you really get the benefit of deeper projection into the audience and horizontal dispersion. The bigness of this type of rig can easily rival much larger cabinet configurations.
I hope this helps.

 

[Turn Em Loose]

@dwellers, as stated by @ahc, I would not recommend this configuration of these cabinets for optimum performance. When you stack any like cabinets on top of each other, you get coupling of the drivers. With the Bass Array design, you get this in "spades" so to speak.
Along with the woofers coupling, the alignment of the 2 line array columns in a direct line, you really get the benefit of deeper projection into the audience and horizontal dispersion. The bigness of this type of rig can easily rival much larger cabinet configurations.
I hope this helps.

I concur. Got a second 10-2. Pretty amazing. It sounds more than double the output with two 10-2's stacked. More like 2.5 - 3 times the output.

Hmmmm....Wonder what three 10-2's would sound like.........drool

 

[mwbonsall]

Hmmmm....Wonder what three 10-2's would sound like.........drool

Only one way to find out, do it!

Mark

 

[John D Harris]

I concur. Got a second 10-2. Pretty amazing. It sounds more than double the output with two 10-2's stacked. More like 2.5 - 3 times the output.

Hmmmm....Wonder what three 10-2's would sound like.........drool

Exactly what I've been wondering since Jeff announced the BA10-2...

Jeff, for a triplet stack of these, would the top cab still be stable or might it need some help to keep it from vibrating backwards?

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Exactly what I've been wondering since Jeff announced the BA10-2...

Jeff, for a triplet stack of these, would the top cab still be stable or might it need some help to keep it from vibrating backwards?

As discussed several times about this design, yes the coupling of multiple cabs is much more pronounced than with more traditional cabinets. The couple of the line array elements just adds that much more to the projection and dispersion. As proven by many users, it's not the available additional output/volume but the increased penetration into the room and across the stage.

Regarding stacking 3 of the BA10-2 cabs, as long as you are on a solid floor surface, you would be fine. A deep, soft-carpeted surface might be a little precarious. Stacking 3 cabs creates quite an "arc" of cabs. You could always set this up so the top cab rests against a wall, when on a very soft surface.
The top cab would not vibrate off, just need to keep the "arc" of cabs stable on soft flooring.
Hope this helps.

 

[Bassworship1]

Let's just say that stacking 3 cabs is a glorious feeling.

 

[SadowskySteve]

Let's just say that stacking 3 cabs is a glorious feeling. View attachment 2475331

GAS,GAS, and more GAS!

 

[tombowlus]

Let's just say that stacking 3 cabs is a glorious feeling. View attachment 2475331

Yes indeed!

 

[Jeff Genzler]

While we're talking triplets, here is a recent pic from Charlie Dolan, bassist with the band Tauk. Had a great case made for all 3 as you see it!

They're out doing festivals right now.