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Genzler Magellan Preamp Review

I posted this as a reply in my own thread which didn’t start off with anything to do with this unit, but I figured this might help someone as I had a hard time finding much in the way of reviews on this preamp.

I pulled the trigger on the Genzler Magellan Preamp pedal. It’s pretty amazing. Very transparent while offering a very diverse set of EQ controls. Definitely tames some of the extremes of the Stingray Special. The contour controls on this preamp are game changing for me. It’s like having 2 amps. With contour A, I’m getting a very GK vibe that can get really mid-scooped at extreme settings, but at modest settings it’s just a slight enough scoop and slight boost to the bass and treble. Very modern and ultra-pristine, but not at all harsh. It’s still taming the zing a bit and isn’t boomy or wooly. Contour B gets me a more Mark Bass (but not quite as sterile and dull) mixed with Ampeg tone (but not super low end thick and wooly). Again, not boomy or wooly, takes most of the zing away, but it’s still slightly there… it just takes more of a back seat. A bump in the mids and low mids while the low end stays defined and tight, but breathes. The mid frequency sweep is really useful too, going all the way up to 2.5khz if I remember correctly from 4 hours ago. The entire sweep is useable depending on the tone you’re going for. The high pass filter is nice and I had really never considered one before. It is a very, very subtle effect. I had trouble hearing much of a difference in the few YouTube videos I found on this preamp, but in person it really cleans up the extreme low end. It seems to retain the good usable parts of the bass frequencies while getting rid of the super low, “vibrating” rumble that seems to want to make my speaker flub. Even on its highest setting (120 hz I believe), there is still plenty of solid low end that’s kept tight and responsive… musical I dare say.

The only downside I’ve found so far is that the XLR out into the Mic level XLR input on my QSC CP8 is very noisy. It has a constant hiss that reminds me of my first PA’s noise floor issues (Alto 12” powered speaker), and I get a slight warbling when a note is just finishing decay. Now, running 1/4” from the preamp into the line level input of the QSC is dead silent and works perfectly. However, I could chalk this up to my inexperience with XLR and mic level overall. In order to get usable volume that matches the 1/4” line level input, I’m turning the +db boost for the mic level input with the XLR up to max. This might be what’s introducing the noise. I don’t know for sure and this might simply be a case of the user not understanding how these interactions occur and proper use scenario.

Another thing to note: this preamp is ultra clean. I maxed the input gain and turned my stingray all the way up (both the volume and all three on-board EQ knobs) and this this is still crystal clear. Zero clipping from what I can tell. Maybe slight clipping with the very lowest frequencies, but barely noticeable.

Like I have heard this described in The Bass Negus YouTube review, it doesn’t color your sound, but it just does something… indescribable. It seems to take the best parts of your bass’s sound and enhance them. It also seems to take the parts that are usually difficult to get rid of and most people (me especially) learn to live with and work around, and get rid of them. It really is a great preamp pedal and is making me focus more on playing, less on fiddling and adjusting. It sounds cliche, but there really isn’t a bad sounding setting to be found in this unit.
 
If you want to use XLR line level, the 1/4" preamp output is balanced, so a 1/4" TRS to XLR(M) adapter cable will work fine, BUT you must switch the XLR input on the speaker to line level (by insuring that the "mic boost" switch is off) if using that input. The primary XLR input is line level by default. I am also pretty sure that you can remain line level balanced by using a TRS-TRS cable into the 1/4" input of the QSC.

The DI output is pre-master volume control, so it's not ideal for driving a powered speaker since you will want to use the master volume control. I'm not sure why it's noisy, but there could easily be a level mis-match due to missing the master volume gain stage. I just asked one of my friends who is a QSC dealer and he said that the mic input is there for convenience, it's not high performance by any means. This may be what you are experiencing, but these days low noise mic inputs are pretty easy to design.
 
If you want to use XLR line level, the 1/4" preamp output is balanced, so a 1/4" TRS to XLR(M) adapter cable will work fine, BUT you must switch the XLR input on the speaker to line level (by insuring that the "mic boost" switch is off) if using that input. The primary XLR input is line level by default. I am also pretty sure that you can remain line level balanced by using a TRS-TRS cable into the 1/4" input of the QSC.

The DI output is pre-master volume control, so it's not ideal for driving a powered speaker since you will want to use the master volume control. I'm not sure why it's noisy, but there could easily be a level mis-match due to missing the master volume gain stage. I just asked one of my friends who is a QSC dealer and he said that the mic input is there for convenience, it's not high performance by any means. This may be what you are experiencing, but these days low noise mic inputs are pretty easy to design.
That makes a lot of sense when described that way. Again, I think it’s more of a “user misunderstanding how things are supposed to work” issue on my part. Supporting this further are some of the few reviews of this preamp (most certainly by people who actually know what they’re doing :) stating the XLR out on this thing is super quiet. Seems like I’m introducing the noise with the mic gain on the QSC. Like I said, using the 1/4” out and into the regular 1/4” in on the QSC, I get zero (and I mean ZERO) noise or hiss. Even the db boost from the EQ at their most extreme settings isn’t introducing any unwanted noise, which I’ve never experienced before with the few other preamps I’ve used. Needless to say, I’m extremely happy with this product. It’s doing everything I want and more, and solving tone problems I figured were just part of life playing bass. Really a well-thought-out, practical, extremely pleasant sounding preamp.
 
I love my Magellan Pre. Definitely one of my best bass-related purchases of the last ten years. I’ve never had any noise issues with the XLR out. Nothing but positive experiences with this preamp. :)
Yeah, it’s me… :) after reading the explanation above a doing a quick google search, adding 16db of gain to an input seems to be a great way to end up with hiss. I feel dumb.

I agree about the pre being one of the best bass-related purchases I’ve made. This is coming from an Origin Effects BASSRIG Super Vintage too. Fantastic build and sound, just not my sound. The Magellan is such a refreshing clean slate and just makes my bass sound better in every way.
 
I love my Magellan Pre. Definitely one of my best bass-related purchases of the last ten years. I’ve never had any noise issues with the XLR out. Nothing but positive experiences with this preamp. :)
Yes, agree as well. Love mine! Exceeded my expectations! Designed well and very robustly built. A couple of times, took this to jam with a friend and used it to go into the PA. Worked very well as I did not want to transport my rig. PA was of good quality so the results were good thanks to the pre/ di.
 
It's a great pedal if you love the tone of your basses. It doesn't color it, simply enhances it, has more than enough tonal sculpting possibilities to satisfy almost anyone. Unless you're after an SVT tone. Takes pedals extremely well high output active basses doesn't phase it. Highly recommend it to anyone looking for preamp and doesn't want to spend much money hard to beat at it's price point.
 
I just picked one of these up also, and so far, I love what I'm getting from it. My first Genzler product after years of dedicated Shuttle use. The only thing nagging at me is where to set the initial Gain control so its high enough, though without clipping. I've always had some kind of indicator. Maybe @agedhorse will come along and share his insight on this topic.
 
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My gigging pedal board. Great pre. Great EQ.
 
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My gigging pedal board. Great pre. Great EQ.
I don't have much more available real estate than you. I'm thinking about springing for a 4OTF to go ahead of the Magellan now that I'm 100% solid state and might benefit from just a little tasteful grit. I'll have to ditch the octaver, but I rarely use it.
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I just picked one of these up also, and so far, I love what I'm getting from it. My first Genzler product after years of dedicated Shuttle use. The only thing nagging at me is where to set the initial Gain control so its high enough, though without clipping. I've always had some kind of indicator. Maybe @agedhorse will come along and share his insight on this topic.
There’s quite a bit of input headroom, so with the master at 12:00 it’s pretty much impossible to clip the input without being well into clipping on your power amp. That’s why we didn’t bother with the input clip LED.

If you want to overdrive the input, you can by decreasing the master, increasing the input gain and using your ears.
 
I have often wondered whether the re/Q is really necessary with the Pre. It adds something you can't get with just the Pre ?
I have the Magellan 800 and for a short time had the re/Q pedal. IIRC the frequency points of the re/Q kind of slot in between the set points of the Magellan (with mid set flat). You also get the benefit of both the low and high pass filters. That all makes for a lot of great options. I just have such great success with a flat EQ and a little contour that the re/Q ended up being more than I needed. For the person who is really into sculpting their sound, the re/Q is a great tool.