He's not talking about putting up housing for gang bangers and the like. He's talking about turning the place into condos for retiree's (primariy) on fixed incomes.
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George Lucas Does Something Cool For A Change
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So they will have enormous slingshots with which to launch elderly people at the neighbors houses? Is that Angry Olds?
Or will they wait for the influx of thugs and do Angry Gangs?
I wanna watch!
Or will they wait for the influx of thugs and do Angry Gangs?
I wanna watch!
Or will they wait for the influx of thugs and do Angry Gangs?
I wanna watch!
All I could think of :
Monty Python Flying Circus - Gangs in Bolton
How is it a good thing? I am not rich, pretty poor actually, and would not want all the crime that comes with Low income housing (projects)...and before you want to label me and talk about stereotypes, let me set you up in deluxe apartment hear in Saginaw, MI., nice low income housing and, we will see your opinion change real fast as you dodge bullets trying to get away...
Did you enjoy the re-release of the original films with updated digital effects?
I preferred seeing puppets in the cantina, myself.
I was curious about that, cause I've never heard the words "Marin County" and "Low income" in the same sentence before. I used to live in Monterey, California and good god were the houses overvalued. Coming from the Midwest and moving to California was absolute culture shock. Here I was living in a house that by Midwestern standards is poorly made, and they charge 5x the price for it. Seriously? Half a million dollars for a 2 bedroom house?
I agree. Where I'm living now in Augusta, Georgia, low income housing is pervasive. It's absolutely destroyed downtown Augusta and taken Richmond county down with it. Other than the Magnet schools, the public school system is awful. I took a drive to downtown a couple nights ago and there are prostitutes lining the street with no shame at all. My wife works at a bank and has customers that pay $40 a month for housing. Here I am busting my rear actually earning a living and they're dragging down my property values while sitting around doing nothing. These people live on welfare, food stamps and section 8 housing and are perfectly fine with living that way indefinitely. No effort whatsoever to improve their situation. That attitude and lifestyle is an epidemic here.
People think it's a nice thing in terms of social responsibility, not in terms of personal comfort.
yeah, as long as it's not THEIR personal comfort...
ruining a nice neighborhood that YOU don't live in, somehow, doesn't seem like "social responsibility" to me...it just seems like the same old BS...make yourself feel good at someone else's expense.
It's not going to be a section 8 welfare housing development folks. It's going to be a development targeted toward seniors and working families making from $40-80,000 a year. That's certainly not the same demographic as the generational welfare group.
But of course it makes it a bit harder to heap on the "hate" if you include that information in the discussion.
But of course it makes it a bit harder to heap on the "hate" if you include that information in the discussion.
i love how people who disagree with you are always called "haters"...what a great way to stake out the moral high ground. nobody wants to be associated with a "hater" do they?
i have not seen any hate whatsoever in the arguments on this thread...just reasoned discussion with some on each side.
what say we leave off the name calling and discuss the issue like grown-ups?
BTW, you did not respond to any of the above posts about how low-income government housing has ruined neighborhoods/cities.
is it true or is it not....don't you think it's relevant to the discussion?
slobake
resident ... something
There was low income housing built about 1/4 mile from where I live about 15 years ago. There was a lot of resitence from the nieghboorhood before it was built. It came out nice and has been maintained, definetly not an eyesore. Since that time I haven't seen and increase in crime, if fact the nieghborhood has gotten safer. To be fair the demographic in the rest of the nieghborhood is also changing and that is probably why it is safer and more expensive here.
Typical of San Francisco there is also a huge scary housing project about 1/4 downhill from my house. I stay away from there, it's not a safe place. One good thing, if you call the cops they are practically at your doorstep before you hang up. Around here the term low income housing can mean more than one thing.
That's the way it is here, one our wealthiest nieghborhoods called Nob Hill or more commonly known as Snob Hill is right next to one of the worst nieghborhoods called the Tenderlion.
For Dave my nieghbor, I'm talking about the low income housing they built above the farmer's market and the Alemany Street projects.
Typical of San Francisco there is also a huge scary housing project about 1/4 downhill from my house. I stay away from there, it's not a safe place. One good thing, if you call the cops they are practically at your doorstep before you hang up. Around here the term low income housing can mean more than one thing.
That's the way it is here, one our wealthiest nieghborhoods called Nob Hill or more commonly known as Snob Hill is right next to one of the worst nieghborhoods called the Tenderlion.
For Dave my nieghbor, I'm talking about the low income housing they built above the farmer's market and the Alemany Street projects.
I think Lucas is a jerk for trying to do ether. He is just another ultra rich Hollywood type that thinks the world revolves around him.
He doesn't care about his town or neighbors.
I am a big personnel property rights guy but you have to have limits.
The town can stop anything he wants to do with zoning ordinances.
He doesn't care about his town or neighbors.
I am a big personnel property rights guy but you have to have limits.
The town can stop anything he wants to do with zoning ordinances.
I don't actually think anyone here is a hater... hence the quotes around the word. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
In this particular discussion I don't think the comparisons are relevant at all. The proposed development isn't a section 8 type development. Comparing this proposal to the stereotypical "projects" full of gang bangers and addicts is like comparing apples to lampposts. Everyone is entitled to criticize, but imo it should be accurate criticism.... not inaccurate broad brushing.
personally I always liked seeing star wars movies so i just saw more star wars in those. win.
Exactly. It's not public housing.
"Affordable housing" initiatives satisfy a city's desire to locate necessary productive members of society close to the city. Think teachers, firemen, etc. Otherwise, they can't fill those positions because people would rather not commute x hours/day.
So they'll green light condo projects, etc.
That's freakin boss. It's too bad about the studio though, that could have meant more jobs for locals who sincerely need work to make ends meet for their families. Either way, well done Mr. Lucas.
Cool story. However. In Marin there are many families that are force to live in these gang-land neighborhoods that do not belong there. Family making 50-60k a year and is working hard will have hard time affording housing in Kent, Larkspur, Fairfax, Ross and other good neighborhood. They are forced to live in San Rafael near canal street. I personally knew 2 people who were gunned down on that street. 60k is not a bad job, but when average house cost around 1.2 million, it's hard to survive on.
I think Marin has a big issue with economic division. This is why i think this is a good idea.
My point is, you can't compare Michigan to Marin county. It's very different.
This is reason my family moved from there to San Jose. There were not enough jobs that paid enough to survive there with out being close to the ghetto. My dad has PhD in math/CS.
I guess my point is, when someone comes in and tries to create jobs or shrink the price margin between "ghetto" and "rich neighborhoods" I am for it. Lucas will have his agenda, but if something good comes from it, i am for it.
