Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[GwenOnBass]

/me = pedal noob

Only reason I know of the U47 is because of Joe's Garage

 

[beans-on-toast]

He did it his way, insisting on a particular U47 at Capital Records.

The Frank Sinatra Microphone

 

[GonePlaid]

There's a place for a different style of playing, but I like to see that reserved for prodigies and novelty acts, for the most part. People like Michael Manring come to mind.

You can play chords on a bass as if it really were a guitar if you're not trying to be the one holding down the groove below the other instrumentation. It becomes more of a melodic rhythm instrument at that point. But if you're playing actual bass lines the way you play lead, that never really sounds very good because no lead guitarist ever thought about sitting in the pocket.

Can I get an "AMEN"?

 

[GonePlaid]

We were able to acquire such a nice array of mics through the generous support of our PB audience partners (we were part of WOSU).

Which category is Michael in?

Stanley Clarke uses (or did a few years ago, anyway) an MXR Octave Deluxe. He'd play his tenor strung bass and use the pedal if he needed to go lower than A.

I had a EHX MicroPOG. Very cool pedal, that tracked well down to even the B on my 5 string basses. The octave-up section wasn't very useful, to me, though. I made good use of the dry and wet outs when recording my basses, or guitars (those are those skinny string things! At the time, in my case, they were my 1967 Rick 330 or 2013 PRS Custom 24) in stereo.

One has to be careful about the 'octave up'. A little(less than 1/2)is plenty, otherwise very un-clean.

 

[SoulReflection]

I would be all for gifting the young people with total debt forgiveness on education. And I remember when I was young if you were a Washington resident going to the UW was very economical. A student could actually work and get a degree and not go into years of debt.

But that was probably before the time of "for profit" higher education...

 

[GwenOnBass]

There have been times when education simply for the benefits, and enjoyment, of education were seen as enough reason to do it.

Other educations present themselves seemingly of their own accord. The difference, for example, between one tequila and three tequilas.

 

[beans-on-toast]

I don't know about educational debt forgiveness. I see too much lavish student excess in my neighbourhood. They should pay for it, not everyone else.

 

[Pilgrim]

When I look at prices on my 77DX, I am reminded to treat it with great care! Dang!!

 

[GwenOnBass]

Perhaps a smaller step than student loan forgiveness might include paying university athletes as the employees of the massive businesses they work for.

 

[Pilgrim]

Perhaps a smaller step than student loan forgiveness might include paying university athletes as the employees of the massive businesses they work for.

ONE HUNDRED freakin' percent! The first step is the image and likeness laws which are moving forward in many states.

All of the states I have read about passing laws related to this have timed them to come into force about 2023, so there is time for the NCAA to experience a few moments of brain cell activity and update policies to match. This is a battle that even the NCAA presidents can't think they will win.

It won't do much for athletes other than the top few in any area's money sports, but it may benefit some of the stronger secondary sports. Example: Colorado State has a long run of dominance in volleyball, and those athletes are known in this area. They might actually get some traction from new laws.

 

[LBS-bass]

We were able to acquire such a nice array of mics through the generous support of our PB audience partners (we were part of WOSU).

Which category is Michael in?

I put him in both . Seriously, anyone who does tapping, etc., is a novelty act as far as I'm concerned, only because novelty connotes something not typically seen.

Not that there's not a place for it in music, but it's outside the mainstream and a little bit kitschy in the same way I'd view any other parlor trick, particularly when people do it to be flashy.

But don't get me wrong, it's cool, and some of my main favorite players do it *cough Tony Levin cough*. Levin plays Chapman stick and does incorporate it beautifully into a lot of the music he plays, but he also knows when to lay back and just play the roots, like when he did the studio work with Paul Simon on 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover. A tasteful player is a tasteful player, regardless of the tricks he/she has up that sleeve.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

I wasn't even thinking of athletes and how much they make-- that's a whole 'nother issue that's tantamount to sleazy money practices.

I'm talking about average college students who can earn a scholarship through excellent scores--there's the motivation. We need to figure a way to help the kids get a decent life after college. A married college couple leave college sometimes owe a 1/4 million USD between them and they don't always get top dollar in their first five or so years.

 

[beans-on-toast]

I can see athletes wanting a bigger piece of the mega pie, after all they are the talent. But I assume that each and every one of them is on a full scholarship with food, housing and extras supplied.

Are they really graduating in the hole?

 

[alaskaleftybass]

I can see athletes wanting a bigger piece of the mega pie, after all they are the talent. But I assume that each and every one of them is on a full scholarship with food, housing and extras supplied.

Are they really graduating in the hole?

Good point, @beans-on-toast . That was my point too.

 

[LBS-bass]

There have been times when education simply for the benefits, and enjoyment, of education were seen as enough reason to do it.

Other educations present themselves seemingly of their own accord. The difference, for example, between one tequila and three tequilas.

Society has changed a lot. We used to do things just because they seemed like they would benefit society as a whole. Nowadays we only look at how much money things cost.

 

[Fat Freddy]

There have been times when education simply for the benefits, and enjoyment, of education were seen as enough reason to do it.

Other educations present themselves seemingly of their own accord. The difference, for example, between one tequila and three tequilas.

Three Tequilas?.....Time to go out and play.....Mwah...ha ha haaaaa....

 

[LBS-bass]

 

[beans-on-toast]

I have four relatives that graduated in recent years. Three lived at home, all went to school locally to save money. They all held down part time jobs and had paid summer jobs. They all graduated debt free without parental aid other than living at home. So it can be done. My wife and I did the same back in the day only we also covered food and rent. It was hard work back then.

Students in my neighbourhood live like royalty. They eat in restaurants for every meal, they party more than the study buying cases of booze - not just beer, they go on vacations, they don't work to earn money. They spend, spend, spend like there are no limits.

It isn't unusual for parents to buy condominiums or houses for their kids to live in while in school. Sometimes a parent will live there with them. Big companies are buying hotels and renovating them for student accommodation. These places are furnished like high end hotels with chef prepared food, maid service, laundry service, and activities. They are all fully rented. Clearly there is no shortage of money.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

I have four relatives that graduated in recent years. Three lived at home, all went to school locally to save money. They all held down part time jobs and had paid summer jobs. They all graduated debt free without parental aid other than living at home. So it can be done. My wife and I did the same back in the day only we also covered food and rent. It was hard work back then.

Students in my neighbourhood live like royalty. They eat in restaurants for every meal, they party more than the study buying cases of booze - not just beer, the go on vacations, they don't work. They spend, spend, spend like there are not limits.

It isn't unusual for parents to buy condominiums or houses for their kids to live in while in school. Sometimes a parent will live there with them. Big companies are buying hotels and renovating them for student accommodation. These places are furnished like high end hotels with chef prepared food, maid service, laundry service, and activities. They are all fully rented. Clearly there is no shortage of money.

Shoot! I'm going back to college!

 

[GwenOnBass]

Apparently some people do Rodney Dangerfield themselves to a degree? Imagine what sort of world it would be if anyone could buy a degree.