Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[the harp unstrung]

 

[GwenOnBass]

A hint, please? Nothing from the face place shows on this computer. People do it all the time, as if that place is normal ... I kept my account there for a couple days once, deleted it, long long long gone (they finally gave up). No metadata for joo, FB.

 

[the harp unstrung]

I’m not allowed to have a FB page...so says my daughter!

“Daddy! You would just Stay in trouble!!”

 

[SoulReflection]

Well, this brings back old memories.

Back in the '50's, I was featured on the "March of Dimes" at check out counters in Vancouver, BC. I was born with clubbed feet and was pictured in a wheel chair with casts on both feet. With the aid of the Shriner's Hospital, the Salvation Army and several operations, I was able to referee for hockey and play racquetball later in life.

If I ever get to go back to Canada, I will pick up my deceased mother's scrap book and prove it to you...

 

[beans-on-toast]

Polio affected a lot of people. It was common to see people with braces or one leg longer than the other requiring a shoe with a huge sole. The polio vaccine changed it all. In 1952, nine year old Neil Young was striken with polio. He walks the way he does because of polio. Itzhak Perlman is another musician that was struck with the disease at an early age. To this day he uses braces and crutches to walk.


Thalidomide is a common tranquilizer that was widely taken to help people deal with stress post WWII. It was given to expectant mothers to prevent morning sickness. It unnecessarily resulted in deformadities in the late 50’s in 46 countries. As a result, the drug approval process became more rigirous.

The Thalidomide Tragedy: Lessons for Drug Safety and Regulation | Helix Magazine

 

[GwenOnBass]

Okay I couldn't see (and still can't see) the content in @the harp unstrung 's post but there was another postwar medication that — unlike Thalidomide — was a silently ticking time bomb. The drug is called Diethylstilbestrol - Wikipedia and ... and right now studies of the first children exposed in utero are long closed. The prescribing doctors are dead, paper trails lost, none can say how many of our GOF age were exposed. Many who came down the chute a girl after exposure are gone, and nobody even looked at the boy babies for decades. The studies now are for third generation DES descendants.

No telethons for DES, good luck to you if you were exposed Birth defects of diethylstilbestrol - Wikipedia

 

[GonePlaid]

Okay I couldn't see (and still can't see) the content in @the harp unstrung 's post but there was another postwar medication that — unlike Thalidomide — was a silently ticking time bomb. The drug is called Diethylstilbestrol - Wikipedia and ... and right now studies of the first children exposed in utero are long closed. The prescribing doctors are dead, paper trails lost, none can say how many of our GOF age were exposed. Many who came down the chute a girl after exposure are gone, and nobody even looked at the boy babies for decades. The studies now are for third generation DES descendants.

No telethons for DES, good luck to you if you were exposed Birth defects of diethylstilbestrol - Wikipedia

Somehow, the expression "it seemed like a good idea at the time" comes to mind. I don't remember* ever hearing of that drug.

*a lotta things

 

[the harp unstrung]

Mmmmmmm

Well, this brings back old memories.

Back in the '50's, I was featured on the "March of Dimes" at check out counters in Vancouver, BC. I was born with clubbed feet and was pictured in a wheel chair with casts on both feet. With the aid of the Shriner's Hospital, the Salvation Army and several operations, I was able to referee for hockey and play racquetball later in life.

If I ever get to go back to Canada, I will pick up my deceased mother's scrap book and prove it to you...

I am watching ads for the Shriners over n over right now.

They’re helping to bring me tonight’s feature film:
The Last Waltz, on AXS...

...and a happy, beery Saturday night to you and yours!

 

[beans-on-toast]

Okay I couldn't see (and still can't see) the content in @the harp unstrung 's post but there was another postwar medication that — unlike Thalidomide — was a silently ticking time bomb. The drug is called Diethylstilbestrol - Wikipedia and ... and right now studies of the first children exposed in utero are long closed. The prescribing doctors are dead, paper trails lost, none can say how many of our GOF age were exposed. Many who came down the chute a girl after exposure are gone, and nobody even looked at the boy babies for decades. The studies now are for third generation DES descendants.

No telethons for DES, good luck to you if you were exposed Birth defects of diethylstilbestrol - Wikipedia

Embryological development is so fragile. At five weeks, the (male) Y chromosome and a hormone partially inhibits the X fuction and converts embryos from female to male. DES has deep consequences on a delicate process.

 

[SoulReflection]

Embryological development is so fragile. At five weeks, the (male) Y chromosome and a hormone partially inhibits the X fuction and converts embryos from female to male. DES has deep consequences on a delicate process.

Ya, but then there was the separation between Mars and Venus. Not to make light of the fact that DES was a huge mistake.

And, in answer to the question of how much testing has to go into a drug, it is until it is proven to be safe. Apparently, that process has dire results if it is rushed.

 

[mikeoso]

For any motorheads or former motorheads here:

ok, well, the 4 on the floor, tach, and gauges are non-standard. I cant watch the vid on this device, but guessing there's a hopped up 327 in there as well.

 

[bobyoung53]

ok, well, the 4 on the floor, tach, and gauges are non-standard. I cant watch the vid on this device, but guessing there's a hopped up 327 in there as well.

Yup hopped up 327, 4 speed, tach, gauges, it's a hot rod 55. If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd have one just like it except maybe with an LS-6 454, none of those little wimpy 327's for me. That thing does rev nice though.

 

[beans-on-toast]

And, in answer to the question of how much testing has to go into a drug, it is until it is proven to be safe. Apparently, that process has dire results if it is rushed.

It makes me worry about Covid vaccines that are rushed forward. With drug companies, there’s always a tradeoff between good vs bad benefits. They know that a certain portion will suffer serious side effects.

 

[SoulReflection]

Yup hopped up 327, 4 speed tach gauges, it's a hot rod 55. If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd have one just like it except maybe with an LS-6 454, none of those little wimpy 327's for me. That thing does rev nice though.

My thoughts exactly @bobyoung53. If I ever had one, and dared to drive it regularly, I would install 3 point seat belts, just because...

 

[beans-on-toast]

Yup hopped up 327, 4 speed tach gauges, it's a hot rod 55. If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd have one just like it except maybe with an LS-6 454, none of those little wimpy 327's for me. That thing does rev nice though.

Better win the lottery soon. Sooner rather than later, corvette and other gasoline engines will be illegal. Maybe not in our lifetimes.

 

[GwenOnBass]

We've got multiple generations of books and movies assuring us scientists' mistakes wind up badly. If a musician makes a mistake, Mingus gets to fire them onstage.

 

[bobyoung53]

We've got multiple generations of books and movies assuring us scientists' mistakes wind up badly. If a musician makes a mistake, Mingus gets to fire them onstage.

And bodily throw them off.

 

[bobyoung53]

Better win the lottery soon. Sooner rather than later, corvette and other gasoline engines will be illegal. Maybe not in our lifetimes.

Well, I buy the lottery maybe once a year so there's not much chance I'll ever win. I do have a sick modern motor head car at home though, 2009 Pontiac G8 GT, small block 364 CI in it, 6 speed auto, rear wheel drive like a car is supposed to be, probably pushing about 400 HP, came stock with 361 HP but I did a few things to it. If I was on a deserted highway like up in VT someplace, stopped and floored it, it would chirp third gear at close to or a little above 100 mph. The thing shuts down to 4 cylinders on the highway though when it's cruising and if I take it easy and stay between 65 and 70 on the highway I can average over 25 mpg, that's difficult to do in that car though. I bought it new in 08 and got 4 speeding tickets within two years, I've been a good boy since then though. I have to get her fixed when I get home, she made a terrible metal on metal noise one day when I started her up and then decided to run on 7 cylinders instead of 8 which made me very sad. That's not mine it's from the web but it's identical.

 

[bobyoung53]

Better win the lottery soon. Sooner rather than later, corvette and other gasoline engines will be illegal. Maybe not in our lifetimes.

I hope not because modern motors run so clean now and get two to three times the gas milage they used to get.

 

[GwenOnBass]

Well, I buy the lottery maybe once a year so there's not much chance I'll ever win. I do have a sick modern motor head car at home though, 2009 Pontiac G8 GT, small block 364 CI in it, 6 speed auto, rear wheel drive like a car is supposed to be, probably pushing about 400 HP, came stock with 361 HP but I did a few things to it. If I was on a deserted highway like up in VT someplace, stopped and floored it, it would chirp third gear at close to or a little above 100 mph. The thing shuts down to 4 cylinders on the highway though when it's cruising and if I take it easy and stay between 65 and 70 on the highway I can average over 25 mpg, that's difficult to do in that car though. I bought it new in 08 and got 4 speeding tickets within two years, I've been a good boy since then though. I have to get her fixed when I get home, she made a terrible metal on metal noise one day when I started her up and then decided to run on 7 cylinders instead of 8 which made me very sad. That's not mine it's from the web but it's identical.

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Kinda big for me ... fun when I can fit an entire rig in an Audi TT. My old Audi S4 is the largest car I ever owned at it's cavernous inside.