Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[GonePlaid]

"...tuplets of tritones...", not triplets of tritones. Does it mean pairs of triplets working down the scale then? Or two tones selected out of each triplet, working down the scale? Inquiring minds and all that*.

*: I prolly wouldn't have framed the question even, without this here thread. So look at that!, you have already taught me something this morning!

ETA: guess I'm in the minority here so far, actually seeking clarity. The nerve!

I'm curious, just not awake.

 

[GwenOnBass]

"...tuplets of tritones...", not triplets of tritones. Does it mean pairs of triplets working down the scale then? Or two tones selected out of each triplet, working down the scale? Inquiring minds and all that*.

*: I prolly wouldn't have framed the question even, without this here thread. So look at that!, you have already taught me something this morning!

ETA: guess I'm in the minority here so far, actually seeking clarity. The nerve!

What exactly I'm doing as best I can 'splain is
play the three notes of a descending tritone as a tuplet
then
shift a whole step down and do it again
four times total for one bar of tuplets
at the conclusion of the fourth tritone the root of the first tritone is on the next 1

yeh I figured this out messing around.

 

[GonePlaid]

What exactly I'm doing as best I can 'splain is
play the three notes of a descending tritone as a tuplet
then
shift a whole step down and do it again
four times total for one bar of tuplets
at the conclusion of the fourth tritone the root of the first tritone is on the next 1

yeh I figured this out messing around.

Oh. OK. Got it.

 

[beans-on-toast]

I associate tritone with halftone color dithering that newspapers used to print images.

Published in 1899.

If you want to be confused, buy a vehicle with a Chrysler transmission.

 

[GwenOnBass]

I associate tritone with halftone color dithering that newspapers used to print images.

Published in 1899.
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If you want to be confused, buy a vehicle with a Chrysler transmission.

Aye, plenty of halftones. The how is an entirely different matter. Mine is a love/hate relationship with Compugraphic, and Compugraphic typesetters in particular. CG is part of Agfa-Gevaert today. My One Line Gauge To Rule Them All came from CG.

 

[markwrob]

I associate tritone with halftone color dithering that newspapers used to print images.

Published in 1899.
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If you want to be confused, buy a vehicle with a Chrysler transmission.

Reminds me of the Taupin-John classic "Solar Prestige a Gammon"!

 

[beans-on-toast]

Reminds me of the Taupin-John classic "Solar Prestige a Gammon"!

That’s an obscure Elton John song if I ever did hear one.

Could almost be true.

 

[Jeff Scott]

Off this afternoon to the horse pistol, where I've my appointment with radiology.

I hope they put a good station on for you.

My This-Reality (whatever) task today is a clean run of tuplets of tritones on a descending whole tone scale.

Is any Tupperware involved?

Whole-tone scales can be fun to amaze your friends with.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Kermit’s xray.

 

[GwenOnBass]

The old hardline typesetter gals could knock out a double truck tire ad like nobody's business. What I made my business is knowing what these ladies do, so you know I show them something and that's how this fairy tale ends.

The reality is people made those typesetting machines sing like musical instruments.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

The old hardline typesetter gals could knock out a double truck tire ad like nobody's business. What I made my business is knowing what these ladies do, so you know I show them something and that's how this fairy tale ends.

The reality is people made those typesetting machines sing like musical instruments.

In the army I was the battery clerk (field artillery) and could type the H3LL out of my typewriter. When I had to do a letter, there was no such thing as a template. So I had to count the number or characters in each line of Heading address--United States Department of the Army, etc., then divide by 2, then if it was 32 characters, I would backspace 16 characters. Every line. After a while I knew how many backspaces each line required and could patter them our pretty quickly.

When I did duplicate or triplicate we had correcting fluid for the top and CC: pages. That was fun!
Dang whippersnappers today don't realize how easy they got it.
Sometimes I wish I had stayed in and did the 20 years. But then I would have never met Carey. It all turns out better in the end...

 

[alaskaleftybass]

Aye, plenty of halftones. The how is an entirely different matter. Mine is a love/hate relationship with Compugraphic, and Compugraphic typesetters in particular. CG is part of Agfa-Gevaert today. My One Line Gauge To Rule Them All came from CG.

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In the 90's I read about a keyboard whose name was spoken in reverence. The Northgate Omni keyboard. It was written in computer mags that editors loved the tactile feel of the keyboard and found ways to use them even after they became obsolete when the connectors changed. I always used whatever stock keyboard came with the computer, started on an Epson 8088 with an Epson keyboard. My good friend of 40 years had a Leading Edge computer and the keyboard was a dream to type on. Without further ado, the Northgate Omni Keyboard.

 

[beans-on-toast]

In the army I was the battery clerk (field artillery) and could type the H3LL out of my typewriter. When I had to do a letter, there was no such thing as a template. So I had to count the number or characters in each line of Heading address--United States Department of the Army, etc., then divide by 2, then if it was 32 characters, I would backspace 16 characters. Every line. After a while I knew how many backspaces each line required and could patter them our pretty quickly.

When I did duplicate or triplicate we had correcting fluid for the top and CC: pages. That was fun!
Dang whippersnappers today don't realize how easy they got it.
Sometimes I wish I had stayed in and did the 20 years. But then I would have never met Carey. It all turns out better in the end...

Do you recall the make and model of typewriter that you used? I know that there were office and field models.

Somehow I’d think that a Remington would bring comfort.

 

[G-Dog]

In the army I was the battery clerk (field artillery) and could type the H3LL out of my typewriter. When I had to do a letter, there was no such thing as a template. So I had to count the number or characters in each line of Heading address--United States Department of the Army, etc., then divide by 2, then if it was 32 characters, I would backspace 16 characters. Every line. After a while I knew how many backspaces each line required and could patter them our pretty quickly.

When I did duplicate or triplicate we had correcting fluid for the top and CC: pages. That was fun!
Dang whippersnappers today don't realize how easy they got it.
Sometimes I wish I had stayed in and did the 20 years. But then I would have never met Carey. It all turns out better in the end...

Will, do you find that knowing your way around a typewriter keyboard helped with your IT skilz. I took 2 years of typing in high school 'cause I knew I wanted to work with computers. Typing teachers had it made! "Put your fingers here and start typing." But IT wasn't a major at my college, so Engineering it was. I didn't take as long punching my card decks for FORTRAN classes as the other guys, and had fewer errors.

When PCs became available I learned all the keyboard shortcuts and held on to them even thru the advent of Windows mousing around. I still use an XTree clone file manager, ZTreeWin, for the quick keyboard commands. I never did work directly for an IT department, but always got the IT-related assignments. By the time I retired lotta people showed up at the IT department for my retirement party!
.

 

[GonePlaid]

Will, do you find that knowing your way around a typewriter keyboard helped with your IT skilz. I took 2 years of typing in high school 'cause I knew I wanted to work with computers. Typing teachers had it made! "Put your fingers here and start typing." But IT wasn't a major at my college, so Engineering it was. I didn't take as long punching my card decks for FORTRAN classes as the other guys, and had fewer errors.

When PCs became available I learned all the keyboard shortcuts and held on to them even thru the advent of Windows mousing around. I still use an XTree clone file manager, ZTreeWin, for the quick keyboard commands. I never did work directly for an IT department, but always got the IT-related assignments. By the time I retired lotta people showed up at the IT department for my retirement party!
.

IF I'd had a retirement party, I'm guessing they'da sung (Farmer in the Dell)"we hate to see you go, we hate to see you go, we hope to heck you never come back, we hate to see you go".

 

[GwenOnBass]

Counting headlines is a fun, fun game on the editor's rim. The rim is a desk shaped like a horseshoe. The slot editor sits in the center, where the literal slot is. The slot is where paper copy is dropped down to the ground floor where the Linotype machines are. Were.

The letter counts are different because an upper case W takes up more width than a lower case i. Counting double spaces, full spaces, half spaces. The slot editor sends the story to a rim editor with a headcount that read something like
2-18-3
which means the head is two columns wide in 18 point type, and has three decks
and that's much of the daily grind.
Later, computers will figure this out for us, and provide ways to cheat our head counts

A certain slot editor raises the stakes and gives head orders to ordinary questions. He may ask
Want to join us for beer after work?
3-42-1
and my reply has to fit his headline order

 

[Polish Thunder]

In the 90's I read about a keyboard whose name was spoken in reverence. The Northgate Omni keyboard. It was written in computer mags that editors loved the tactile feel of the keyboard and found ways to use them even after they became obsolete when the connectors changed. I always used whatever stock keyboard came with the computer, started on an Epson 8088 with an Epson keyboard. My good friend of 40 years had a Leading Edge computer and the keyboard was a dream to type on. Without further ado, the Northgate Omni Keyboard.

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This keyboard is what I used to have in my office (cube) back in the day BL (Before Laptops) when I still had a desk top computer.

 

[G-Dog]

In the 90's I read about a keyboard whose name was spoken in reverence. The Northgate Omni keyboard. It was written in computer mags that editors loved the tactile feel of the keyboard and found ways to use them even after they became obsolete when the connectors changed. I always used whatever stock keyboard came with the computer, started on an Epson 8088 with an Epson keyboard. My good friend of 40 years had a Leading Edge computer and the keyboard was a dream to type on. Without further ado, the Northgate Omni Keyboard.

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Toward the end of the PC-AT era I had developed a cardboard keyboard for our suite of office applications, Lotus 1-2-3, pfs: Write, CEO (Comprehensive Electronic Office), AutoCAD, etc. Our IT dept. loved it, but they sent me to IT HQ to see the new keyboards coming out with F1-F12 across the top instead F1-F10 on the left. Saw a lotta cool stuff coming down the pike at that time. When I got back home to rework the template for the new keyboard I couldn't get a new 386 machine, but I could, and did, order a Hauppauge 386 motherboard to replace my IBM AT motherboard and an Omni keyboard, too!

 

[alaskaleftybass]

Do you recall the make and model of typewriter that you used? I know that there were office and field models.

Somehow I’d think that a Remington would bring comfort.

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I don't remember the typewriter, but I know it came in an OD case and I barely used it because I doubled as the driver for the Battalion commander's APC. I'm pretty sure it was the M577 and not the M113 because we needed headroom for the very rudimentary large single line LED computers used by Fire Direction Control to calculate the rounds. Some days we stayed in the field 3 days and weren't allowed to sleep. That's when I started seeing the pink elephants!

M577:

 

[BargeOn]

In the 90's I read about a keyboard whose name was spoken in reverence. The Northgate Omni keyboard. It was written in computer mags that editors loved the tactile feel of the keyboard and found ways to use them even after they became obsolete when the connectors changed. I always used whatever stock keyboard came with the computer, started on an Epson 8088 with an Epson keyboard. My good friend of 40 years had a Leading Edge computer and the keyboard was a dream to type on. Without further ado, the Northgate Omni Keyboard.

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Remember it well. From back when the company I worked for forbid any drinks (including coffee ) at the computer because they couldn't risk the expense of replacement if you spilled something on it.