Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[Winslow]

Obligatory:

There are a few videos of Neal Peart playing the drums along with tracks. What a great player! So sad to have lost him.

Indeed. You may find this interesting, if you haven't seen it yet.

 

[SoulReflection]

Shakespeare 8' 6" fiberglass 8-weight with a cork

I have an older 8' 6" 5wt. Sage with a Sage reel that came in a $279 package and a 4 piece for travel. Love them both with Rio Gold line. I've tried their $700+ rods but can't justify that. Besides, I am a hacker and can't tell the difference .

 

[Greywoulf]

Usta go surf casting for striped bass with big gear at the Jersey shore. Elusive fish, and I never *&$%#*caught one! -But still had enjoyable outings at the edge of the beach...

Also deep sea fishing offa NJ shore in daily excursion boats. Better luck there with blues, flounder and fluke. Good eating stuff... Probably hooked a big shark once. Trawled all around the back of the boat and nearly tore the vibrating, jerking rod outa my hands! Never surfaced tho, broke the line and swam off with the bait and the hook. My hands and arms were throbbing but I was grateful I'd kept possession of my medium-heavy rod and tackle...
Greywoulf
(The Old Man And The Sea?)

 

[Charlie Tango]

Don't tell me people still hate Dylan for going electric??? How would you like it if folks told you you were only allowed to play music the way they wanted you to play it, and then with only the instruments they allowed you to use? I think the 'folkies' back then (when Dylan switched to electric folk rock) behaved like music Nazis!! (Or at best, immature brats...)
Seriously guys......???
Greywoulf

One of the best things about the folk scene was "A Mighty Wind."

 

[Charlie Tango]

All the better to cover up his singing! You've heard of "having a face for radio"? Well, he's got a voice for songwriting!
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Aw, come on. Nobody ever sang through their nose better than Dylan.

 

[GwenOnBass]

Dylan sings a great deal better than I, and that's a fact that will go forever unchallenged

 

[Charlie Tango]

Dylan sings a great deal better than I, and that's a fact that will go forever unchallenged

Tut, tut. I used to think the same of myself, and it turned out to be very untrue.

 

[beans-on-toast]

At my UU church we regularly sell out (pre-Covid and hopefully soon again) a good sized room to fans who come to see and hear folk artists, who BTW would all be quite surprised to hear that their music has been doomed by electric instruments... (Or by Dylan??? Are you serious?) New modern folk artists use whatever instruments they damn well please (geez, some even use Rickenbackers!) as they have confidence in their talent and abilities and also in the maturity of their audiences.

I still say that degrading hard working performers because they don't live up to one's foolishly idealistic expectations of them is immature. If you don't like what they're doing you're always free to leave and go elsewhere to be a fanboy.
Greywoulf

Here's how I see it…It wasn't so much the instruments, it was the direction that popular music took. There were folk circuits that Neil Young, Stephen Stills, Joni Mitchell and many others were on. They made a living that way. They soon got record deals, directions changed. Folk shows were popular on TV. At one point the Seekers outsold the Beatles in England.

With the British invasion, record companies dropped backing folk groups. Many coffee houses closed or moved in other directions. One near me has been in continuous operation for 54 years. Artists that were popular in the 60's and 70's grew old and many have died. Others keep up the tradition. There are folk youTube channels.

People that liked folk music of that era never went off it. The songs were well written and they were excellent musicians. The fan base didn't continue to grow. But folk never died. Roger McGuinn has been operating the Folk Den web site since the early days of the usenet. He documents and posts traditional folk songs.

Interesting that you mentioned church. Folk services became popular in the 60's and serves as an outlet for folkies. It kept the kids coming to church. I know of one church that maintained that tradition since the 60's for decades.

 

[G-Dog]

Aw, come on. Nobody ever sang through their nose better than Dylan.

Except for Willie Nelson, Tom Petty, The Bee Gees (and brother Andy), Gilbert O'Sullivan, to name just a few. Anybody who ever sang anything has used their nose to some degree or other, but it can easily be overdone. Balance is the key.
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[StereoPlayer]

Major respect for him...
But I'm in the I don't care for him category.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Except for Willie Nelson, Tom Petty, The Bee Gees (and brother Andy), Gilbert O'Sullivan, to name just a few. Anybody who ever sang anything has used their nose to some degree or other, but it can easily be overdone. Balance is the key.
.

Speaking of the Bee Gees.

 

[GwenOnBass]

Noticing none here appear particularly phased that Bob Dylan is 80. 80. That is not a great deal older than I am.

 

[gtmalone]

Usta go surf casting for striped bass with big gear at the Jersey shore. Elusive fish, and I never *&$%#*caught one! -But still had enjoyable outings at the edge of the beach...

Also deep sea fishing offa NJ shore in daily excursion boats. Better luck there with blues, flounder and fluke. Good eating stuff... Probably hooked a big shark once. Trawled all around the back of the boat and nearly tore the vibrating, jerking rod outa my hands! Never surfaced tho, broke the line and swam off with the bait and the hook. My hands and arms were throbbing but I was grateful I'd kept possession of my medium-heavy rod and tackle...
Greywoulf
(The Old Man And The Sea?)

That would have been a lot more fun with a spinning rig and 6 lb test. That and a slightly heavier spinning rig with 10 lb test are my favorites.

I've never understood the need for heavy lines and bait cast reels for most fresh water fishing. Whatever your preference is I guess. It's not any fun trying to untangle an overrun on a bait caster. You don't need it unless your going for large pike, muskellunge, or lake trout. I've also never understood fishing tournaments - catching the fish and yanking it out of the water which is probably why there is heavy line and reels.

 

[Greywoulf]

Here's how I see it…It wasn't so much the instruments, it was the direction that popular music took. There were folk circuits that Neil Young, Stephen Stills, Joni Mitchell and many others were on. They made a living that way. They soon got record deals, directions changed. Folk shows were popular on TV. At one point the Seekers outsold the Beatles in England.

With the British invasion, record companies dropped backing folk groups. Many coffee houses closed or moved in other directions. One near me has been in continuous operation for 54 years. Artists that were popular in the 60's and 70's grew old and many have died. Others keep up the tradition. There are folk youTube channels.

People that liked folk music of that era never went off it. The songs were well written and they were excellent musicians. The fan base didn't continue to grow. But folk never died. Roger McGuinn has been operating the Folk Den web site since the early days of the usenet. He documents and posts traditional folk songs.

Interesting that you mentioned church. Folk services became popular in the 60's and serves as an outlet for folkies. It kept the kids coming to church. I know of one church that maintained that tradition since the 60's for decades.

Yes folk music is still around, and like jazz it's still going strong in it's own smaller niche. But all too often the current trend in popular music is a fad and fades away... (Doo wop anyone?)
And right now I'm wanting the current fad with teenie-pop twerkers and baby-voiced squeakers who slather over their lack of talent with huge amounts of flash and bling (and silly, really silly "sexiness") to please, please, please GO AWAY!!

Also I gotta say that as far as UU goes, me saying "church" IMO was a kind of misnomer. It's more like a 'meeting house' where folks of Unitarian and many previous faiths (including atheists) get together in an all inclusive, progressive and liberal, spiritual type of gathering...

And I definitely agree that "A Mighty Wind" is a great spoof of musicians, as is "This Is Spinal Tap..."
Greywoulf

 

[SoulReflection]

That would have been a lot more fun with a spinning rig and 6 lb test. That and a slightly heavier spinning rig with 10 lb test are my favorites.

I've never understood the need for heavy lines and bait cast reels for most fresh water fishing. Whatever your preference is I guess. It's not any fun trying to untangle an overrun on a bait caster. You don't need it unless your going for large pike, muskellunge, or lake trout. I've also never understood fishing tournaments - catching the fish and yanking it out of the water which is probably why there is heavy line and reels.

I've never understood the need for heavy lines and bait cast reels for most fresh water fishing.

The only bait casting reels I have are with line counters and used for trolling with downriggers. 8 lb. test with 4 lb. leaders. I am not casting with them. I have spinning reels for that purpose with the same line configuration .

 

[notJaco]

Noticing none here appear particularly phased that Bob Dylan is 80. 80. That is not a great deal older than I am.

Let's not start because most of dem guys and gals are purt near there. McCartney, Jagger and Co...High 70's

Tom Jones 80
Tony Bennett is 94!
Judi Collins 82
Frightening!

 

[Greywoulf]

Let's not start because most of dem guys and gals are purt near there. McCartney, Jagger and Co., Tom Jones IS there.
Frightening!
Tony Bennett is 94!
Judi Collins 82

I think I saw 80 somewhere back there...
No, wait, that was the new Prez burning rubber on his new electric F150!!
Greywoulf

 

[SoulReflection]

Let's not start because most of dem guys and gals are purt near there. McCartney, Jagger and Co., Tom Jones IS there.
Frightening!
Tony Bennett is 94!
Judi Collins 82

Thanks...at 72, I feel like I have a bit more time to improve .

 

[gtmalone]

Yes folk music is still around, and like jazz it's still going strong in it's own smaller niche. But all too often the current trend in popular music is a fad and fades away... (Doo wop anyone?)
And right now I'm wanting the current fad with teenie-pop twerkers and baby-voiced squeakers who slather over their lack of talent with huge amounts of flash and bling (and silly, really silly "sexiness") to please, please, please GO AWAY!!

Also I gotta say that as far as UU goes, me saying "church" IMO was a kind of misnomer. It's more like a 'meeting house' where folks of Unitarian and many previous faiths (including atheists) get together in an all inclusive, progressive and liberal, spiritual type of gathering...

And I definitely agree that "A Mighty Wind" is a great spoof of musicians, as is "This Is Spinal Tap..."
Greywoulf

 

[gtmalone]

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