Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[GonePlaid]

I wonder how much the navy paid to procure those items.

Outta my pay grade.

 

[Passinwind]

They can do some neat laser etching stuff today.

Metalphoto

Yep, I met them at NAMM a few years ago and am on their email list. The tooling costs are prohibitive for what I'm doing though, especially since I expect every amp to have a somewhat different different feature set.

 

[GonePlaid]

Hmm, maybe that was the problem with the last couple of bands I was in.....................



What I want to know is, what color was the Tolex® on the Navy issue amps.

Black(1966).

 

[Passinwind]

I still know a guy who believes that. He's recently come out of retirement tp play again and is getting a rude awakening that, in 2019, nobody wants to deal with his mismatched stack of four Marshall combos and cabs. "But it's how I get my TONE, man!"

Yeah, you might want to figure that one out. I walk into a venue with my <5 lb head and <35 lb cabinet and just laugh at him. He brought a passive monitor to a show once and didn't understand why we couldn't hook it up when all we had for PA were powered speakers on sticks. I'm like, um... did you bring an amp for it? No, that's not gonna work here. Sorry.

It's too bad because he's a pretty good player but he's just stuck in his ways from the good old days and resents being expected to come up to speed.

We had a really nice guy show up at one TB GTG I hosted. He brought along lots and lots of the usual old school bass amp gear. He left in tears, literally. I could and would have helped him tweak his implementation (most of the gear still sounds fine, really), but he disappeared from our local scene shortly thereafter.

 

[Jeff Scott]

Black(1966).

They didn't spring for the Navy Blue version?

 

[GonePlaid]

They didn't spring for the Navy Blue version?

I dunno. I had nothing to do with their choice of amp or bass. That's what was there.

 

[beans-on-toast]

I dunno. I had nothing to do with their choice of amp or bass. That's what was there.

Good thing that you weren't a left handed player. They might have had you do something else.

 

[Jeff Scott]

I dunno. I had nothing to do with their choice of amp or bass. That's what was there.

Shame really, as they would have looked really cool.

 

[LBS-bass]

I get that. In my case, with the current cash flow, re-equipping with powered speakers/monitors is outta the realm of possibility when the gear I have works fine and no one would pay enough for it to buy new. Also, many of the places we play don't have enough outlets to plug all o' that stuff in to anyway.
We're presently doing just fine with either my JBL EON One as both PA and monitor, or our one guitarist's 2 Bose L1's daisy chained, again as both PA and monitors. Both guitarists are using 7ender Blues Juniors, I use either a Rumble 40(18#)or R200c(34.5#), drummer is acoustic, and the instruments aren't in the PA-no need. Our audience(s) would mostly qualify as GOF's, so loud ain't necessary. In fact, not being loud keeps us working almost every weekend.

Respectable old gear is respectable. You're bringing tried-and-true gear and using just what's needed at reasonable levels. This guy wouldn't be able to play a tiny coffee shop without this 4 cab/combo configuration at ear-splitting levels, though. Which is a problem for a lot of people

 

[beans-on-toast]

Shame really, as they would have looked really cool.

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It does look nice.

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Blue PMS 294 on the Navy Emblem. Not sure if that is the same as the uniform navy blue.

 

[GonePlaid]

It does look nice.

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Blue PMS 294 on the Navy Emblem. Not sure if that is the same as the uniform navy blue.

The amp appears to be more of a royal blue-sorta. The uniforms are nearly black-or were in 64 to 68 anyway.

 

[GonePlaid]

Respectable old gear is respectable. You're bringing tried-and-true gear and using just what's needed at reasonable levels. This guy wouldn't be able to play a tiny coffee shop without this 4 cab/combo configuration at ear-splitting levels, though. Which is a problem for a lot of people

I know Marshall makes some small amps. Maybe if he gave a coupla those a listen....or maybe he can only hear at insane levels. Or he could try this:

(and go wireless to the PA)

 

[LBS-bass]

I know Marshall makes some small amps. Maybe if he gave a coupla those a listen....or maybe he can only hear at insane levels. Or he could try this:
View attachment 3494682 (and go wireless to the PA)

If he would. But he won't. Edit: Replacing the video with a screen shot

This mess is what he believes he needs at every single show in order to get the sound he wants. I forget if that's another combo at the bottom to the left, or just another cabinet. He won't even consider taking half of this to a small room. And, no surprise, the sound at this show was awful.

 

[the harp unstrung]

Remembering My Dad Through Classic Rock’s Greatest Misses — Talkhouse

Nice read...

 

[alaskaleftybass]

If he would. But he won't. Edit: Replacing the video with a screen shot

This mess is what he believes he needs at every single show in order to get the sound he wants. I forget if that's another combo at the bottom to the left, or just another cabinet. He won't even consider taking half of this to a small room. And, no surprise, the sound at this show was awful.

I can't believe people are still hauling that stuff around. Nothing a 212 Marshall combo can't handle.. Heck, even in the 80's we had a lady guitarist with a 212 Marshall combo and she never had any problem being heard. Some people get a crazy notion that they have to have an exact setup before they ca get their sound. That's when someone is lost to the winds..... a good player can make any decent sounding amp sound decent enough for a gig... I think LBS maybe a band pig-pile on this guy is in order... besides on small stages it's very inconsiderate of him to hog that much space..

 

[GwenOnBass]

Spandex grill work. Maybe re-purposed bicycle riding gear. Jockey silks.

It's the sea of Spandex I noticed at my single visit to a Formula 1 race (~ 2000). I'd kind of imagined Spandex as an NASCAR sort of thing (the taxis turning left races).

 

[LBS-bass]

I can't believe people are still hauling that stuff around. Nothing a 212 Marshall combo can't handle.. Heck, even in the 80's we had a lady guitarist with a 212 Marshall combo and she never had any problem being heard. Some people get a crazy notion that they have to have an exact setup before they ca get their sound. That's when someone is lost to the winds..... a good player can make any decent sounding amp sound decent enough for a gig... I think LBS maybe a band pig-pile on this guy is in order... besides on small stages it's very inconsiderate of him to hog that much space..

Honestly I don't think I'll be playing with him much longer, since this whole project seems to be losing ground. It's too bad because the band was pretty good, but even though he's a pretty decent player I wouldn't want to connect him with anyone else, or work with him myself again on something new.

Yes, we played one very small room where he brought all this stuff, the drummer had his full kit, and the singer and I squeezed into whatever space was left. I've played there many times with other bands. The sound man tried to kindly advise him that he had too much gear and that the room isn't a loud venue. He got a little perturbed; I had to go talk to the sound man myself later in order to smooth things over, since I work in that room a lot, this is a small town, and I don't want my reputation being smeared by one guy's refusal to take direction. I don't like working with people who cause me to have to clean up after them. I just told him that we're a loud band, but a bunch of old pros so not to worry, it's going to be fine.

That being said, from downbeat on, we killed that room. Best show I've ever played in there with any band, hands down. We were all on point. It was loud, but the crowd was engaged and screaming for more, and the staff loved it. Sigh.

 

[Haroldo]

Is that anything like 'recalcitrant plebney'?

What, me worry? Youth is invincible.

 

[Haroldo]

Honestly I don't think I'll be playing with him much longer, since this whole project seems to be losing ground. It's too bad because the band was pretty good, but even though he's a pretty decent player I wouldn't want to connect him with anyone else, or work with him myself again on something new.

Yes, we played one very small room where he brought all this stuff, the drummer had his full kit, and the singer and I squeezed into whatever space was left. I've played there many times with other bands. The sound man tried to kindly advise him that he had too much gear and that the room isn't a loud venue. He got a little perturbed; I had to go talk to the sound man myself later in order to smooth things over, since I work in that room a lot, this is a small town, and I don't want my reputation being smeared by one guy's refusal to take direction. I don't like working with people who cause me to have to clean up after them. I just told him that we're a loud band, but a bunch of old pros so not to worry, it's going to be fine.

That being said, from downbeat on, we killed that room. Best show I've ever played in there with any band, hands down. We were all on point. It was loud, but the crowd was engaged and screaming for more, and the staff loved it. Sigh.

Alas, the old saw: nothin' succeeds like excess.

 

[LBS-bass]

Alas, the old saw: nothin' succeeds like excess.

Go figure