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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

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So sad about Phil Collins. He's had numerous back surgeries and it's pretty much destroyed his mobility. He walks onstage now with a cane, slowly, then sits in a barstool for the rest of the night. This is the man who I looked up to since I was young. He flew supersonic jets to concerts. He's sold 200 million records.

Now he's confined to a wheelchair and cane, and looks much older than his 68 years. And here I am a PC tech just a year younger then him, and I have full mobility. I don't have the jet or the millions though! LOL. I guess life is a series of trade-offs. Somehow I thought of you @LBS-bass when I saw his concert and thought, you're right, medicine is still a practice with best guesses. He should never have let the doctors cut into his spine and back. My dad told me when I was young, "don't ever let the doctors cut into your back, you'll never be the same." 50 years later it still holds true.

For those of us still mobile and mostly whole (LOL) I say we should be grateful for God's blessings. At least I am. But today I'm very sad for Mr. Collins. He will always be one of my heroes.

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Don't look at me. I don't solo for squat.
A couple goes to a marriage counselor. He asks "what seems to be the problem?". The couple just look around the room and don't answer. The counselor asks again-same reaction. He goes to the bookshelf and starts a CD playing. After 2 minutes the couple start talking like they haven't for years. They turn to the counselor and ask, "How did you do that, we haven't talked like that in a long time". The counselor says "Oh, it's easy-everyone talks during the bass solo."
 
So sad about Phil Collins. He's had numerous back surgeries and it's pretty much destroyed his mobility. He walks onstage now with a cane, slowly, then sits in a barstool for the rest of the night. This is the man who I looked up to since I was young. He flew supersonic jets to concerts. He's sold 200 million records.

Now he's confined to a wheelchair and cane, and looks much older than his 68 years. And here I am a PC tech just a year younger then him, and I have full mobility. I don't have the jet or the millions though! LOL. I guess life is a series of trade-offs. Somehow I thought of you @LBS-bass when I saw his concert and thought, you're right, medicine is still a practice with best guesses. He should never have let the doctors cut into his spine and back. My dad told me when I was young, "don't ever let the doctors cut into your back, you'll never be the same." 50 years later it still holds true.

For those of us still mobile and mostly whole (LOL) I say we should be grateful for God's blessings. At least I am. But today I'm very sad for Mr. Collins. He will always be one of my heroes.

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Rheumatoid arthritis can be devestating.

Keith Richards finger joints are in rough shape.
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So sad about Phil Collins. He's had numerous back surgeries and it's pretty much destroyed his mobility. He walks onstage now with a cane, slowly, then sits in a barstool for the rest of the night. This is the man who I looked up to since I was young. He flew supersonic jets to concerts. He's sold 200 million records.

Now he's confined to a wheelchair and cane, and looks much older than his 68 years. And here I am a PC tech just a year younger then him, and I have full mobility. I don't have the jet or the millions though! LOL. I guess life is a series of trade-offs. Somehow I thought of you @LBS-bass when I saw his concert and thought, you're right, medicine is still a practice with best guesses. He should never have let the doctors cut into his spine and back. My dad told me when I was young, "don't ever let the doctors cut into your back, you'll never be the same." 50 years later it still holds true.

For those of us still mobile and mostly whole (LOL) I say we should be grateful for God's blessings. At least I am. But today I'm very sad for Mr. Collins. He will always be one of my heroes.

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That's very sad. I didn't realize he was in such bad shape. I was a huge Genesis fan back in the day and loved much of his earlier work.

Back when I was in my early 20's I developed a pinched nerve in my neck, which sent me to a few doctors. X-rays were done, the diagnosis was handed down, and the options were to either have surgery on my neck or wear a neck brace for the rest of my life.

I chose the neck brace, and have worn it very infrequently ever since. The problem isn't that bad, I'm not in pain from it very often, and a day in the brace usually sets things right again. There was no way I was going to let anyone near my spinal cord with a scalpel. All these years later I know I made the right choice.
 
When I first met him, in 1973, he still had hair (so did I :roflmao:).
That same year they toured Seattle while I was at UW. Played the Paramount. I remember 'the drummer' stepping up and singing "More Fool Me" and thought he had great potential. Phil Collins always the consummate professional.
 
That's very sad. I didn't realize he was in such bad shape. I was a huge Genesis fan back in the day and loved much of his earlier work.

Back when I was in my early 20's I developed a pinched nerve in my neck, which sent me to a few doctors. X-rays were done, the diagnosis was handed down, and the options were to either have surgery on my neck or wear a neck brace for the rest of my life.

I chose the neck brace, and have worn it very infrequently ever since. The problem isn't that bad, I'm not in pain from it very often, and a day in the brace usually sets things right again. There was no way I was going to let anyone near my spinal cord with a scalpel. All these years later I know I made the right choice.
Good for you. I had an uncle working on the North Slope oil pipeline and he fell from a ladder in the kitchen. The ambulance chasers were on it and they recommended back surgery and sued for six figures. Uncle got his six figures but after the operation he always walked around at an angle. And he couldn't stand long. He said later in life he wished he had never gone down that path.
 
I got to see Phil in his prime right after Gabriel left, the "And Then There Were Three" tour. I listened to the audio book version of his autobiography (very worth while), so I was aware of his physical difficulties. He actually recorded a drum track for the Beatles which was not used on their recording. It was worth listening the book just to hear that story. :laugh: (it was a joke on Phil by George IIRC)
 
Reckon if you find your body didn't age like a fine wine, then is better to have rocked.

That same year they toured Seattle while I was at UW. Played the Paramount. I remember 'the drummer' stepping up and singing "More Fool Me" and thought he had great potential. Phil Collins always the consummate professional.
Phil always sang as least one song at shows in the early days, before Peter left the band, even the first time I saw them in April '73. It was interesting that when Peter left they spent some time trying to find a singer until Phil looked in the mirror.

 

Phil always sang as least one song at shows in the early days, before Peter left the band, even the first time I saw them in April '73. It was interesting that when Peter left they spent some time trying to find a singer until Phil looked in the mirror.


Yep, I remember when Trick of the Tail came out and we were all shocked that Phil sounded so much like Peter. I saw that tour with Chester Thompson on drums; never saw them with Peter but did see Peter's first solo tour (and many thereafter). Ah, we were all in high school then. Crazy how time has flown by.
 
The Wind & Wuthering tour (the first one with Chester) was the last one I saw. It was in a huge shed, and I was used to seeing Genesis in small to medium size theatres (except the first time, that was in a small gym).
That must have been the one. For sure Chester was there. Gah it’s hard to believe I would forget that but it was a long darned time ago.
 
Hey GOF's anyone here ever used the tube Conn Strobotuners? I found these on sale online. I don't mind that they look rough as long as they work. I don't know anything about the tubes, but I'm hoping they're still available.

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@Passinwind @Jeff Scott @beans-on-toast @Haroldo @agedhorse @Stumbo ?
 
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