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girls getting in the way

Sorry to say this because it is going to come across as really crude. But you have the wrong equipment between your legs to win this fight. The girls are packing a very powerful weapon that you can not defeat. It turns the male brain to mush, is more powerful than any drug addiction, and as soon as they get wind that you are in the fight they will do something drastic with it to make sure you give up quickly. Your buds have been caught in its grasp and are helpless to resist at this point. If attempted murder doesn't break a guy free from it, what exactly are YOU gonna do?
 
What you do is explain to the other guys in the band, income aside, that it's a band. It requires 150% commitment from all parts. I've been with my girl for 10 and just got with some guys last year and explained to her that this comes first because we are seeing the hype now. Clean and cut, in or out.
 
Why not just enjoy the band to ease the stress of not having the job yet. You said it yourself that you were a average bass player. That means you are replaceable, and without much leverage musically. Dumb down the resume, find a job, finish school, and enjoy the music. If by some miracle that one tit flashing leads to a lucrative musical contract, then you have a decision to make on what direction you wanna take. At least then you'll have options. Right now, too many eggs in one basket. I can't see why you're stressed about them chasing a lil tail. After all, that is a big reason why many of us join a band to begin with. ;)
 
I have one burning question.

How is any of this the chic's fault(s)?????

Dude I'm not blaming any of them they are just girls. They have their agenda it takes a man to properly delegate. If you know we need to be practicing or promoting or trying to book venues you don't spend the entire day with a girl or flake out and hide.

I'm over it though I'm putting this band as the lowest priority if no one cares wh should I lose slep over it.
 
I feel you i've been there. Be glad you dont have a GF. Women always feel the bf band as a competition and will always get sick on practice day. "come take care of me, you are saying the band comes first?"
You really have to be clear that the band comes first if you want this as a career.
Once they get it girls will leave or stay.
I just went through this with my gf. She gets it now and doesn't keep calling when she nows im in band practice.


Girl/band.. That dilema is not over yet my friend! Plenty more to come!

With my band we have a straight rule. NO girls during soundcheck. If they come, they have to know they will just in a corner, no asking for a glass of water or anything like it.

I learned the hard way.
 
Man, this sounds like my first band's drummer lol

The kid was talented...VERY talented and had plenty of energy and stage presence. Being about 4 years younger, he brought in a lot of the kids since he had lots of little chicas that loved coming to hear him play. Same problem as your guys though, all he was thinking with was his crotch. Flaked out on rehearsals (which were VERY few and far in between) to go waste time at the mall with this girl he spent 90% of his week with anyhow. He would only end up breaking up with them in a month or two and going right back to some other chick to do the same dang thing over and over again. Ended up joining the Air Force and getting married...if you ask me he completely wasted his talent and opportunities.

Coming from a guy that's been in that scenario more than a few times, it REALLY isn't worth your effort and time. A band is strangely similar to a business, where the band leader is typically the supervisor/boss. If people are wishy-washy about it and don't have any dedication, don't waste your capital training them and giving them work experience that they are only going to piss away. Hire somebody who is serious and is on the same page as you (I know, easier said than done. Been looking for a drummer for over a year now with no luck).

I will say this though, you will have FAR better chances of getting into a serious band if you have a steady job (doesn't have to be 9-5 monday to friday, but something with some decent cash flow is very helpful) and reliable transportation. I passed over a guitarist recently who was like "yeah, I wanna live in a tent outside the venue going on tour like Pantera!". Fine and dandy if that's what somebody sees as living the musicians dream, but that tells ME that they aren't a person who thinks things through. I mean, what if someone is puking or has diarrhea? Really wanna be stuck with that person in a tent? I wouldn't go on tour if I couldn't afford air conditioning or at least a roof over my head, that says I don't have the cash to do something like that. As "cool" as that sounds, a music career is no fairytale and the game has certainly changed since Pantera was up and coming.

I would also recommend branching out as much as possible with guitar. You can get drum loops/sequencers to help with song writing, but a guy who can write guitar and bass parts is a very dangerous contender. If you can bang out some chords, power chord riffs, and a few little solos here and there, you can develop into a song writer in time. The upside to this, is that people who are intimidated by writing but are good players, will be more likely to devote to your band and stay on with readymade material in the can. Once you get a taste of creative control, I think you will prefer it to having to rely solely on others for your riffs. Best of luck! Hang in there and don't let the boobs distract you on stage! lol


***EDIT - I would look seriously into some home recording solutions when money is available. Nothing fancy, grab a used Line 6 UX1 recording interface, a used beater guitar (Ibanez, Squier VM/CV, Schecter, Epiphone, etc), Reaper recording software, and a drum program like Addictive drums. We're talking somewhere in the ballpark of $350-400 for the whole shebang, but starting off with the Line 6 UX1 + guitar is a great place to start (you could get a trial version of the recording software or use Goldwave). There are MASSIVE amounts of resources online to get you going on guitar (chords, scales, tabs, how-to's), if nothing else just get some ideas down and recorded. If you're really serious about it, you never you know if you'll end up being a front man!
 
Based on limited options, you have an emotional investment in the band that's played only three open mics.

From that emotional place, you want to "reason" with your band mates about why their emotional investment should match yours. (Even though that's not really a rational position so much as a moral expectation: "all for one, one for all," etc.)

In the meantime, they have made their own emotional investments. Those investments are clearly non-rational, and yet they're clearly compelling to your band mates.

The only puzzle is why you expect reason to trump libido here.
 
...This girl is bat s'it crazy she burnt the hell out of him a few months ago so much so he had to go to the hospital for treatment. He said they were done. She shows up today and he's been out all day....
Don't be mad. I'm sure he'd love to help you, dude...

He's probably just a little tied up at the moment.

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Beautiful chicks trump band. Always have, always will.....at least for young single guys full of hormones. Best you can hope for is band mates who can swing both. An age old dillema. Lucky for me, it has worked out OK most of the time. Not because of superior intellect.....just dumb luck. Cut them a little slack????
 
Your posting made my day. I laughed my ass off. It reads so funny - especially the part about the crazy chick. I realize it's serious for you guys and I hope you solve it, however, as an old guy who knows he'll never be a rock star your situation really cracked me up. Look at it this way. Perhaps the members of Motley Crue went through the same thing 30 years ago. :-)
 
...And all the minimum wage jobs keep saying no...
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I've NEVER heard anyone say that before. What's the deal? Did you get your face covered in tattoos or something?

You're saying you can't even get a job slinging fries at McDonald's? Hard to believe, brother.

When I was a 20 year old (nearly broke) radio DJ and needed to improve my plight, my dad told me to make a list of 10 places to apply EVERYDAY and apply to 10 places a day until I got a job. I made my list and started going down the list and the 3rd job on the list hired me. You have to be organized and methodical about it (you know how to think that way already from your engineering studies). I know you want to pour all your time and energy into your music career. I've been there too, bro, I know what that intense, driving desire is like...But you have to accept the fact that you need to survive first. Get your survival set up, then you can chase down the musical dream.

If you have no income, getting a job is your fulltime job. You'll NEVER get anywhere in the music biz or anywhere else in life if you have no reliable income. Money allows you to do all those great things like eat, take a shower, sleep indoors, buy gasoline, wash your laundry, oh yeah...and buy musical gear. Use your job to finance your music hobby (until you start making a fulltime living from music). I'm sure you're young and feel healthy, but you also need to consider the need for other important things like medical and dental insurance. It only takes ONE accident of some kind or ONE car wreck to thrash you hard and put you in the hospital or knock your teeth out. Medical and dental care is so ridiculously expensive that without insurance, you can literally be made completely destitute overnight!

Think about yourself and forget those other 2 clowns. In fact, forget about this band and get your survival net spread out...THEN...build a band.