yes i agree. it saddens me because i do love the band and everybody in it. but at the end of the day, whats best for a band is more important than whats best for an individual member of the band. like i said, i wish them the best. and i hope everything goes great for them
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yes i agree. it saddens me because i do love the band and everybody in it. but at the end of the day, whats best for a band is more important than whats best for an individual member of the band. like i said, i wish them the best. and i hope everything goes great for them
i dont feel like they need one given their situation. they say they want a bassist but their history seems to suggest otherwise. this band has gone through quite a bit of bassists. none of which lasted as long as myself. but who knows. maybe they will find somebody who can handle it. or maybe they will be content with being just 8 string guitars.
While I can sympathize with the apparent lack of respect that you've been enduring in your present circumstances, I feel the need to challenge you just a bit on your "as a bassist" framing of it.
To be clear: There is no necessary or automatic lack of respect that pertains to being a bassist. While there still are some douchebag musicians who may look down their noses at the bass as a second-class instrument, and look down their noses at bassists as second-class musicians, this attitude is mostly confined to the ranks of amateurs and hacks, and in no way represents the views of real musicians. And it in no way defines the instrument itself - nor those who play it.
Most folks get about the amount of respect that they demand. The sooner you get over your inferiority complex (if that's what it is), the better for you - and ultimately the better for all bassists.
MM
While I can sympathize with the apparent lack of respect that you've been enduring in your present circumstances, I feel the need to challenge you just a bit on your "as a bassist" framing of it.
To be clear: There is no necessary or automatic lack of respect that pertains to being a bassist. While there still are some douchebag musicians who may look down their noses at the bass as a second-class instrument, and look down their noses at bassists as second-class musicians, this attitude is mostly confined to the ranks of amateurs and hacks, and in no way represents the views of real musicians. And it in no way defines the instrument itself - nor those who play it.
Most folks get about the amount of respect that they demand. The sooner you get over your inferiority complex (if that's what it is), the better for you - and ultimately the better for all bassists.
MM
i did not mean to infer that all bassists get flak. but you gotta admit, many of us have received quite a bit of it.
While I can sympathize with the apparent lack of respect that you've been enduring in your present circumstances, I feel the need to challenge you just a bit on your "as a bassist" framing of it.
To be clear: There is no necessary or automatic lack of respect that pertains to being a bassist. While there still are some douchebag musicians who may look down their noses at the bass as a second-class instrument, and look down their noses at bassists as second-class musicians, this attitude is mostly confined to the ranks of amateurs and hacks, and in no way represents the views of real musicians. And it in no way defines the instrument itself - nor those who play it.
Most folks get about the amount of respect that they demand. The sooner you get over your inferiority complex (if that's what it is), the better for you - and ultimately the better for all bassists.
MM
This is so extremely true. Real musicians recognize the strengths in other players. I have always played in bands with people who treat me like a valuable, contributing member -- even back when I was a beginner.
If my band let me go in order to make room for an 8-string guitar, I wouldn't hate them or anything, but I would definitely be putting another band together in order to make it apparent what a poor decision they made.
Good luck finding someone who wants to play bass in that situation.
I expect elephants all over the world will be wondering "what the hell is that?"
I expect elephants all over the world will be wondering "what the hell is that?"
they should start a new genre called "elephant core" nothing but an inaudible mess lol
It's kind of like telling the keyboard player not to use his left hand (I've done it). Like MM, I've never taken flak as a bass player. Then again, I've always owned the PA.
The guitarist just wants to be the bass player now, Hell who can blame him, it is a better instrument!
So your only option would be to become the guitar player, so what you do is buy a piccolo bass or a 6-string and only play chordal melodys on the top strings.
Turnabout sure is FUN!!! (of course it would be cheaper if he just switches to your bass and you switch to a standard tuned guitar)
One question I have- are you any good? Seriously. Maybe he is trying to tell you something....
So your only option would be to become the guitar player, so what you do is buy a piccolo bass or a 6-string and only play chordal melodys on the top strings.
Turnabout sure is FUN!!! (of course it would be cheaper if he just switches to your bass and you switch to a standard tuned guitar)
One question I have- are you any good? Seriously. Maybe he is trying to tell you something....
not going to toot my own horn. but i can tell you that other people have told me im great. including my band mates. i know my level of skill has nothing to do with it.
So you've essentially left the band because the guitarist wanted to get a new guitar that just so happens to have a lower string? Am i the only one that finds this completely insane?
Sean
Sean
What it boils down to is that you and the band either agree on what you're going to play and how, or you don't. If you don't, then you should leave and find another band.
It's not a case of right and wrong, just a case of fit. You fit or you don't. If not, leave.
It's not a case of right and wrong, just a case of fit. You fit or you don't. If not, leave.
I don't really see it's insane. At the end of the day, he didn't want to work that way. His bandmates did. All other attitudes aside, if his bandmates wanted it that badly, and he, just as badly, didn't , a parting of the ways probably is better for all concerned.
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