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Double Bass Giving up booze?

I am 70 and I have never drank in my life (alcoholic parents turned me off). Just last week I decided that since I had never been drunk I would attempt to get drunk. So I bought a bottle of wine. Drank the whole thing in two hours. I could not believe how horrible it tasted. Gasoline or urine would have been a definite improvement. I didn't get drunk, not even tipsy. I kept burping this horrible taste while I tried to sleep. Cured me of ever wanting to drink again. Yuck.
 
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After the usual teenage/20s binge drinking phase, I mellowed out in my 30s. Then from 42 to 50, I started progressively drinking more - to the point where I could down two bottles of wine or the better part of a 26er of whiskey in an evening.

Of course I was paying the price for that in a lot of ways but still kept it up.

Gigging didn’t help. I retired from the gigging band and then got a bad case of pneumonia this time last year - this stopped my drinking in its tracks and once I recovered, I realized that maybe booze was negatively impacting my immune system - esp. the poor quality sleep.

I might have a beer or three a couple times a month these days. Don’t drink at casually home and don’t drink by myself.

This past New Years I drank my normal New Years amount and I was slurring and unsteady by 9pm. And of course felt like death the next day. I’ve cut down even further in the last month and have stated back on cycling training. So far so good.
 
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OK guys, here we go.
I made a final decision to be fully alcohol-free.
For now, I am sober for 7 days (which is the longest sober period in last few years :-O ) and want to extend that to... eternity?
Thanks for all inspiration!
Best of luck. Do your best but don’t hesitate to seek counsel or help if it becomes overwhelming.
 
I am 70 and I have never drank in my life (alcoholic parents turned me off). Just last week I decided that since I had never been drunk I would attempt to get drunk. So I bought a bottle of wine. Drank the whole thing in two hours. I could not believe how horrible it tasted. Gasoline or urine would have been a definite improvement. I didn't get drunk, not even tipsy. I kept burping this horrible taste while I tried to sleep. Cured me of ever wanting to drink again. Yuck.

That's a curious experiment. It sounds like you were already cured--I would have hated to see it "uncure" you--but I'm glad you were cured again?
 
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I was never an alcoholic per say, but there were times in the past where I had a few too many. Stopped that routine back in 1981.

Last time I bought anything was in the summer of 2017. Bought a 6 pack of Mikes Hard Lemonades. I like sipping on one of those when it's hot outside and I'm doing yard work. I still have 4 unopened bottles in my fridge.
 
I've been looking for an appropriate forum to tell my story. It's meaningless unless it can help somebody. My sobriety date is 4/25/94 but I recently got thrown out of an AA meeting because the chairman with over 40 years and apparently worked for Hazelden (a pioneer in rehab facilities such as Serenity Lane) because I talked about my unsuccessful life in recovery. Sobriety does not equal recovery. But it does keep you alive.

So here is my story. I value this website and hope this doesn't get me banned.

I have some sort of mental illness (bipolar, depression, ptsd...who knows) which started in my teens. I played clarinet growing up and never listened to much rock until I turned 18 when I heard the 12-string strum in "Wish You Were Here." That's about the time I started drinking and smoking pot. Soon I became a blackout drinker and college drop out. When stoned I would drive my car for hours listening to early Pink Floyd and paid particular attention to Roger Waters' playing (even though he played with a pick!). I also developed a gambling problem (ala Jaco Pastorius). I tried to solve my problems by joining the Navy. I scored very high on the entrance exam but I was a space cadet with no insight into the military. I played clarinet in boot camp and was eligible to become a full time Navy musician but I turned it down. I went to "A" school in San Diego and bought my first bass, a Gibson EB0. One of my fellow recruits also ended up in the same school. He was a guitarist from New Jersey and shipped all his gear to San Diego. For two weeks or so we had big jam sessions on the base but then we had go to sea. We never played again. It wasn't until 1987 that I picked up the bass again, a Peavey 5 string. I also bought a keyboard and spent the next year jamming in my mobile home listening to mostly Pink Floyd. I almost joined an RandB band on keyboard, but otherwise didn't play with anyone.

Then in 1988 I had my first audition for a rock-type band. A coworker of mine told me her son was looking for a roommate. He was an alcoholic decorated Vietnam vet. I am a peacetime Navy vet who was discharged for some undisclosed mental illness. I think I played my bass for him and he was impressed. I moved in and also brought my keyboard. This gentlemen was very disturbed. I heard that he was in a hot band in the 60s in Massachusetts and was trying to put another band together 20 years later. But his drinking and bizarre behavior forced me to run. I saw that alcoholic violence growing up. Well, I ended up at my stepcousin's house joined an all original band in the boondocks of Western Massachusetts. I thought this band was cool but it was afraid of its own shadow. We never played out, so I quit after a few months. I resumed my journey into alcoholism and psychedelics. I went to my first Dead show in July 1988 in Maine and thought I found God! In '89 I played bass in acoustic jam bands, stoned and loving it. I made my living traveling throughout the country setting up paint departments in hardware stores. In 1990 I rejoined that original rock band that now featured a monster lead player who eventually developed a heroin addiction. He played a Steinberger and lived in New York. He suggested that I buy a Steinberger bass. I bought a 5-string bolt-on with a small body which led me to this website. The band didn't last long. The lead singer was violent alcoholic. I don't want to go into further detail but let's just say it was traumatic. The band broke up and several of us joined our brother band which was mostly a cover band, very good and gigging. I switched to keyboard when I joined that band and for the rest of 1990 we gigged every weekend. So you see, I never made much money playing bass, but it was probably my best instrument. I could improvise on it before I knew any theory.

In 1991 I took a job transfer to LA, then the gambling habit took over my life. The only bass playing I did was at Trancas in Malibu. A member of Steppenwolf MC'd the open mic and I followed Mick Fleetwood on stage. I didn't play with him. After his jam I played some jam and the MC threw us off the stage because the drummer was busting the head. I told my boss about my gambling and he arranged a transfer back to Massachusetts. I rejoined the band on keyboard but now my addiction switched back to substances. Because of my anger I quit my job and moved in with the bass player. Because of my drinking I ended up with his girlfriend. He saw this and almost wrote my epitaph. I moved back in with my father and joined another band. My father died and I ended up getting into the illicit drug trade with one of my bandmates. We were all addicts and most of them were dealers. Again, all these bands were on keyboards. In 1993 I ended up getting a job in a music store and finally getting a bass gig in a three-piece jazz fusion band. We never played out much but we were good. My ego inflated and so did my gambling. I quit again-not gambling, the band.

I decided to find fame in California. I was living in Vermont at the time, so I packed my SWR Red Head amp, Steinberger and a bag of clothes in my 1982 AMC Eagle. I had $800. I was a junkie. I was insane. I was dead. I had a spiritual experience (1/7/94). I stayed in Vermont and sought out a 12-step program for my gambling. I scratched a couple of tickets on January 12. I joined GA and ACOA. On 4/24/94 I visted one of my old jamming buddies in a cabin in the boondocks of western Massachusetts. We split some pot brownies and had some beers. I became paranoid and feared my friend would hurt me. I drove 40 miles in a blackout.
I blacked out for a day. Then I met a girl who was renting a room in the same house I was in. I told her my story. She called me a binge alcoholic and a drink could lead me back to gambling. Well, the drinking and drug use stopped. The gambling stopped for 8 years. But eventually gambling would destroy my life and hurt those around me. I never recovered. I ran. I chased. I resented. The insanity never abated. But it wasn't all bad.

When I got sober in 1994 I decided to quit music because of what I had done and seen during my 5+ years in the rock scene. I moved to Oregon in '95 and still brought my Steinberger. I ended up joining a few acoustic gigs with my unconventional bass. I didn't get the job I was chasing and had a nervous breakdown. I found a Veterans hospital in Portland Oregon and was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, otherwise known as manic depression. After manically running around the country I ended up in Oregon again and applied for disability benefits. After some bizarre twists and turns I secured a high enough disability rating to get the VA to pay for college. Music was completely out of my life until the fall of 1998. While working at a video store I waited on a customer who turned out to be a drummer in a blues band. I talked about my bass playing and he invited me to join them. One day the guitar player (who is still playing at the very same bar) hired me to fill in for his regular bassist. This turned out to be a million dollar gig. He had a groupie with him at the gig who turned out to be a music therapist. The VA paid for my music degree (not therapy, composition). I discovered my high tenor voice which became my main instrument. I took a semester of string bass lessons but I wasn't comfortable with carrying that thing around. The voice is much more portable!

For the last twenty years I've hardly played bass at all. I played clarinet, 12-string guitar, alto sax, tenor sax, and sang. I even did some piano improv, mostly my stuff and other songs I knew and just improvised. But my gambling has ruined me. It's not the gambling, it's me. I am the problem. Maybe yours was alcohol or drugs or whatever. I don't understand what possessed me to legally steal and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to watch wheels spin on a machine. Drinking blacked me out. I didn't want to feel pain. I quit drinking so I could drive to casinos. Once the light of clarity was shown on my drinking and drug use, I stopped. But I thought it had something to do with music, so I quit. But my music has led to full disability from the VA and Social Security, medical care that cured my cancer 10 years ago, travel to Europe, and a variety of musical opportunities.

So why am I here on this website?

When I was in grad school in San Diego in 2002 I played alto sax in a Christian reggae band. The bass player bought my Steinberger for $400. It was beat up and had a lot of bad memories, so I just wanted to let it go. Now 17 years, thanks to this website I stumbled upon on some sleepless night earlier this month, I found my replacement. No, not a Steinberger. I found one in Poland on eBay but as I know all too well how risky purchases are on that site. So on talkbass I found a Graphite Guitar System Modulus prototype. I visited my old blues band from 20 years ago and talked to the current player about getting an instrument with a graphite fingerboard. No, it's the neck that's graphite. He had a Modulus, and the builder of my bass lives only two hours away from me. The guy who sold the bass to me had a similar background. He was 62 and just getting up there. I don't know whether I'll ever play in a band again. My behavior in groups has been unacceptable. I did buy an Eden Terra Nova 500W/210 system from one of the local music stores here in Oregon. I like the manager who also plays bass. He liked my GGS. I hope to visit the builder who still lives in Washington this week. The only music I'm doing right now is singing tenor in a church-related community choir. The rest of my musical bridges, like the rest of my relationships, are toast because of my addictions and behavior.

I'm 58 and in rough shape, but I am still alive. I am all alone. I hope all of you don't end up like I did. I am glad many of you stayed in music after you started your sobriety. And if you're still drinking and using, I hope you don't do what I and my old bandmates did. One of my drummers overdosed and died, my guitarist couldn't quit methadone and last I knew was losing his foot, that violent lead singer did get sober and had a family.

I lost my competency due to my gambling and was placed in a group home full of addicts. Fortunately I kept my room away from there, because I just exploded at this guy coughing his brains out from pot hits. I just can't do that stuff anymore, and now I'm away from gambling as of January 5. But it may be too late. I am alive, so maybe there's hope.

I wish you all the best.

Maybe I'll join you in the bass world again.

Barney
 
Hi, I've been drinking too much for too long and developed a beer belly amongst other things.
So I am currently on day five of no booze at all, I was having 4-5 pints a night every night, not taking a break.

I can't say I feel much different yet?
Has anyone here ever stopped for a time? what difference(s) did it make to you?
I was doing exactly the same as you, my Doctor told me I had to stop so that's what I did, on 7th of January 2019, never touched a drop since and don't miss it. I didn't realise I had a problem but I do now.
 
I've been looking for an appropriate forum to tell my story. It's meaningless unless it can help somebody. My sobriety date is 4/25/94 but I recently got thrown out of an AA meeting because the chairman with over 40 years and apparently worked for Hazelden (a pioneer in rehab facilities such as Serenity Lane) because I talked about my unsuccessful life in recovery. Sobriety does not equal recovery. But it does keep you alive.

So here is my story. I value this website and hope this doesn't get me banned.

I have some sort of mental illness (bipolar, depression, ptsd...who knows) which started in my teens. I played clarinet growing up and never listened to much rock until I turned 18 when I heard the 12-string strum in "Wish You Were Here." That's about the time I started drinking and smoking pot. Soon I became a blackout drinker and college drop out. When stoned I would drive my car for hours listening to early Pink Floyd and paid particular attention to Roger Waters' playing (even though he played with a pick!). I also developed a gambling problem (ala Jaco Pastorius). I tried to solve my problems by joining the Navy. I scored very high on the entrance exam but I was a space cadet with no insight into the military. I played clarinet in boot camp and was eligible to become a full time Navy musician but I turned it down. I went to "A" school in San Diego and bought my first bass, a Gibson EB0. One of my fellow recruits also ended up in the same school. He was a guitarist from New Jersey and shipped all his gear to San Diego. For two weeks or so we had big jam sessions on the base but then we had go to sea. We never played again. It wasn't until 1987 that I picked up the bass again, a Peavey 5 string. I also bought a keyboard and spent the next year jamming in my mobile home listening to mostly Pink Floyd. I almost joined an RandB band on keyboard, but otherwise didn't play with anyone.

Then in 1988 I had my first audition for a rock-type band. A coworker of mine told me her son was looking for a roommate. He was an alcoholic decorated Vietnam vet. I am a peacetime Navy vet who was discharged for some undisclosed mental illness. I think I played my bass for him and he was impressed. I moved in and also brought my keyboard. This gentlemen was very disturbed. I heard that he was in a hot band in the 60s in Massachusetts and was trying to put another band together 20 years later. But his drinking and bizarre behavior forced me to run. I saw that alcoholic violence growing up. Well, I ended up at my stepcousin's house joined an all original band in the boondocks of Western Massachusetts. I thought this band was cool but it was afraid of its own shadow. We never played out, so I quit after a few months. I resumed my journey into alcoholism and psychedelics. I went to my first Dead show in July 1988 in Maine and thought I found God! In '89 I played bass in acoustic jam bands, stoned and loving it. I made my living traveling throughout the country setting up paint departments in hardware stores. In 1990 I rejoined that original rock band that now featured a monster lead player who eventually developed a heroin addiction. He played a Steinberger and lived in New York. He suggested that I buy a Steinberger bass. I bought a 5-string bolt-on with a small body which led me to this website. The band didn't last long. The lead singer was violent alcoholic. I don't want to go into further detail but let's just say it was traumatic. The band broke up and several of us joined our brother band which was mostly a cover band, very good and gigging. I switched to keyboard when I joined that band and for the rest of 1990 we gigged every weekend. So you see, I never made much money playing bass, but it was probably my best instrument. I could improvise on it before I knew any theory.

In 1991 I took a job transfer to LA, then the gambling habit took over my life. The only bass playing I did was at Trancas in Malibu. A member of Steppenwolf MC'd the open mic and I followed Mick Fleetwood on stage. I didn't play with him. After his jam I played some jam and the MC threw us off the stage because the drummer was busting the head. I told my boss about my gambling and he arranged a transfer back to Massachusetts. I rejoined the band on keyboard but now my addiction switched back to substances. Because of my anger I quit my job and moved in with the bass player. Because of my drinking I ended up with his girlfriend. He saw this and almost wrote my epitaph. I moved back in with my father and joined another band. My father died and I ended up getting into the illicit drug trade with one of my bandmates. We were all addicts and most of them were dealers. Again, all these bands were on keyboards. In 1993 I ended up getting a job in a music store and finally getting a bass gig in a three-piece jazz fusion band. We never played out much but we were good. My ego inflated and so did my gambling. I quit again-not gambling, the band.

I decided to find fame in California. I was living in Vermont at the time, so I packed my SWR Red Head amp, Steinberger and a bag of clothes in my 1982 AMC Eagle. I had $800. I was a junkie. I was insane. I was dead. I had a spiritual experience (1/7/94). I stayed in Vermont and sought out a 12-step program for my gambling. I scratched a couple of tickets on January 12. I joined GA and ACOA. On 4/24/94 I visted one of my old jamming buddies in a cabin in the boondocks of western Massachusetts. We split some pot brownies and had some beers. I became paranoid and feared my friend would hurt me. I drove 40 miles in a blackout.
I blacked out for a day. Then I met a girl who was renting a room in the same house I was in. I told her my story. She called me a binge alcoholic and a drink could lead me back to gambling. Well, the drinking and drug use stopped. The gambling stopped for 8 years. But eventually gambling would destroy my life and hurt those around me. I never recovered. I ran. I chased. I resented. The insanity never abated. But it wasn't all bad.

When I got sober in 1994 I decided to quit music because of what I had done and seen during my 5+ years in the rock scene. I moved to Oregon in '95 and still brought my Steinberger. I ended up joining a few acoustic gigs with my unconventional bass. I didn't get the job I was chasing and had a nervous breakdown. I found a Veterans hospital in Portland Oregon and was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, otherwise known as manic depression. After manically running around the country I ended up in Oregon again and applied for disability benefits. After some bizarre twists and turns I secured a high enough disability rating to get the VA to pay for college. Music was completely out of my life until the fall of 1998. While working at a video store I waited on a customer who turned out to be a drummer in a blues band. I talked about my bass playing and he invited me to join them. One day the guitar player (who is still playing at the very same bar) hired me to fill in for his regular bassist. This turned out to be a million dollar gig. He had a groupie with him at the gig who turned out to be a music therapist. The VA paid for my music degree (not therapy, composition). I discovered my high tenor voice which became my main instrument. I took a semester of string bass lessons but I wasn't comfortable with carrying that thing around. The voice is much more portable!

For the last twenty years I've hardly played bass at all. I played clarinet, 12-string guitar, alto sax, tenor sax, and sang. I even did some piano improv, mostly my stuff and other songs I knew and just improvised. But my gambling has ruined me. It's not the gambling, it's me. I am the problem. Maybe yours was alcohol or drugs or whatever. I don't understand what possessed me to legally steal and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to watch wheels spin on a machine. Drinking blacked me out. I didn't want to feel pain. I quit drinking so I could drive to casinos. Once the light of clarity was shown on my drinking and drug use, I stopped. But I thought it had something to do with music, so I quit. But my music has led to full disability from the VA and Social Security, medical care that cured my cancer 10 years ago, travel to Europe, and a variety of musical opportunities.

So why am I here on this website?

When I was in grad school in San Diego in 2002 I played alto sax in a Christian reggae band. The bass player bought my Steinberger for $400. It was beat up and had a lot of bad memories, so I just wanted to let it go. Now 17 years, thanks to this website I stumbled upon on some sleepless night earlier this month, I found my replacement. No, not a Steinberger. I found one in Poland on eBay but as I know all too well how risky purchases are on that site. So on talkbass I found a Graphite Guitar System Modulus prototype. I visited my old blues band from 20 years ago and talked to the current player about getting an instrument with a graphite fingerboard. No, it's the neck that's graphite. He had a Modulus, and the builder of my bass lives only two hours away from me. The guy who sold the bass to me had a similar background. He was 62 and just getting up there. I don't know whether I'll ever play in a band again. My behavior in groups has been unacceptable. I did buy an Eden Terra Nova 500W/210 system from one of the local music stores here in Oregon. I like the manager who also plays bass. He liked my GGS. I hope to visit the builder who still lives in Washington this week. The only music I'm doing right now is singing tenor in a church-related community choir. The rest of my musical bridges, like the rest of my relationships, are toast because of my addictions and behavior.

I'm 58 and in rough shape, but I am still alive. I am all alone. I hope all of you don't end up like I did. I am glad many of you stayed in music after you started your sobriety. And if you're still drinking and using, I hope you don't do what I and my old bandmates did. One of my drummers overdosed and died, my guitarist couldn't quit methadone and last I knew was losing his foot, that violent lead singer did get sober and had a family.

I lost my competency due to my gambling and was placed in a group home full of addicts. Fortunately I kept my room away from there, because I just exploded at this guy coughing his brains out from pot hits. I just can't do that stuff anymore, and now I'm away from gambling as of January 5. But it may be too late. I am alive, so maybe there's hope.

I wish you all the best.

Maybe I'll join you in the bass world again.

Barney


I am a part of DRA as well as AA. Dual Recovery, or: Are you extra f'ing crazy? Lol. I will probably always be unclear about what is simply alcoholism (cause bottles were but a symbol, as they say) and what is 'outside mental health issues'. You opened saying you probably have an issue but you don't know what. Find out. What could you possibly have to lose?
 
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Hi, I've been drinking too much for too long and developed a beer belly amongst other things.
So I am currently on day five of no booze at all, I was having 4-5 pints a night every night, not taking a break.

I can't say I feel much different yet?
Has anyone here ever stopped for a time? what difference(s) did it make to you?
Sounds like you are doing pretty good. One of the real dangers is alcohol withdrawal and grand mal seizures. Doesn't sound like you are having withdrawals so you are proabably good. Also after no booze for 5 days means you are probably in the clear.
I lost about 30lbs from giving up drinking (lots of beer) and takin up running and resistance training.
 
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I am a part of DRA as well as AA. Dual Recovery, or: Are you extra f'ing crazy? Lol. I will probably always be unclear about what is simply alcoholism (cause bottles were but a symbol, as they say) and what is 'outside mental health issues'. You opened saying you probably have an issue but you don't know what. Find out. What could you possibly have to lose?
Thank you for your reply. I guess I was afraid to find out, so I ran and hid. Hurt everyone I met and hurt myself. Sobriety kept me alive and I made it to 58 but the price I paid to hide from myself and others was very high, sober or not. As you suggested, at this late point in my life, I guess I'm trying to find out what is behind all of the addictions, mental illness and antisocial behaviors I have exhibited and chart a better course with what time I have left. I am in a outpatient mental health day class program at the local VA. One class is Dual Diagnosis. It is my favorite class. One of the regulars is some sort of rap musician who wants to work with me (keyboard). We haven't yet. Music is what keeps me involved in that program. I'm sort of helping the music therapist (my original college major) and play a little bit of 12-string. I can sing too. But bass is from my distant past. As you know from your meetings, many AA/DRA folks live in the past. I'm certainly guilty of that. Maybe that's why I found this bass website to try to find my bass I bought 30 years ago. I ended up buying a bass here built by the guy who sued Steinberger-the maker of my old bass that I was trying to find. I just found a Grateful Dead website. My new bass builder got his break building basses for Phil Lesh in the 1980's. I gave up this music when I got sober in 1994. But I attended the last 3 Dead shows in the Northwest prior to Jerry's death in August 1995. I was about a year sober at these concerts and attended a 12-step meeting at the last show. Deadheads called them "Wharf Rats." Unfortunately Jerry, like many of my band mates many years ago, weren't "Wharf Rats." He and several of my bandmates died or were horribly maimed. I stayed alive and sober but as I told you there were so many other issues. I can't describe some of them here. And as you have encouraged me, I am trying to get to another level in self-knowledge and recovery. I have 148 days without gambling today along with over 25 abstinent years. One day at a time. Ready to turn the page on another day. By the Grace of my Higher Power.

I wish you well in your own journey. Just curious to anyone who reads this, how does staying sober affect your ability to perform in clubs? I have had only gig in sobriety (1998-on bass, the last time I played bass for bread). Best wishes to all, Barney
 
I had a cruise ship gig about ten years ago that lasted about 5 months. When I started, I was drinking far more than was good for my health. Despite the cheap availability of drinks on board (and despite being in the lounge 7 nights a week), I found I was able to give up alcohol altogether. I also quit smoking and began a regular exercise program. By the end of the cruise I had changed for the better by a lot.

Being in the lounge may have helped, really. Watching the customers drink too much was a disincentive to do the same. I think that being by myself among strangers helped, too. I wasn't around anyone I knew who would want to socialize and drink with me. To stay entirely clear of alcohol, or any addictive drug, you have to alter the behaviors that accompany the intake of the drug, too. That means avoiding pubs, for the most part, and going somewhere else. That, I think, is the challenge for musicians who work regularly with friends in places that serve alcohol. For some people, being in a band is part of a social life that includes drinking, etc. For me, I don't like to drink when I play (no more than a glass, anyway), so it's been less of a concern.
 
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Drinking at gigs? If sharing a drink helps people open up and connect, then find another way to connect... ask them a question about something meaningful in their life. The F.O.R.M. questions [Family, Occupation, Relationships, Material Objects] are great. I’ve had some amazing conversations at gigs, no alcohol necessary.
 
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How does sobriety affect performing? If you are newly sober, you may find something is missing or doesn’t feel right. You just need more time playing sober.

I can tell myself that I’ve had plenty of good performances while drinking, but I know for certain that every time I embarrassed myself on stage (or off), alcohol was involved.

When I got sober at the age of 35, I sold all my gear because I didn’t want to be at rehearsals or gigs where there was alcohol. About a year later I heard a live band and knew that I needed to start playing again. I’ll celebrate 30 years of sobriety soon. My sobriety has made me a better musician and a better band-mate.
 
My hope is you stay the course, it's worth the effort. I have been sober 30 years. After losing my first family and all that entails I hit bottom and quit. It was not easy because being sober made me confront the fact I was PTSD. Fortunately the V.A. knows alot and have been a positive component in my life for the past 15 years. I feel nothing but empathy for anyone who realises there is perhaps a problem showing itself, be thankful you are aware. It will always come down to choices, no one can make it but you. Support is wonderful but resolve is mandatory. My wife is an IPA snob so once a week I will drive her to a brewery for her Max two pints. Funny I never even have the urge and enjoy some of the live music. I drink Bolyans Birch Root Beer if,available, fit right in. So yeah, sober is nice (:
 
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My hope is you stay the course, it's worth the effort. I have been sober 30 years. After losing my first family and all that entails I hit bottom and quit. It was not easy because being sober made me confront the fact I was PTSD. Fortunately the V.A. knows alot and have been a positive component in my life for the past 15 years. I feel nothing but empathy for anyone who realises there is perhaps a problem showing itself, be thankful you are aware. It will always come down to choices, no one can make it but you. Support is wonderful but resolve is mandatory. My wife is an IPA snob so once a week I will drive her to a brewery for her Max two pints. Funny I never even have the urge and enjoy some of the live music. I drink Bolyans Birch Root Beer if,available, fit right in. So yeah, sober is nice :)
Hey, Ghook, greetings to another vet!

During my last visit to the Flagstaff VA CBOC, the RN told me about some new smartphone apps developed by the VA.

Search for:

Mindfullness Coach (excellent)
PTSD Coach (the concussion damage left me with some PTSD-like issues)
Concussion Coach (that one hurt)

I'm only 30% disabled, but sometimes it feels like more. But what's great is the VA's new approach to alternative treatments. My VA doc just got me a paid-for 12-session acupuncture program. Surprisingly good results so far! Love to minimize the pharmaceuticals!
 
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