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GK Cabs for Gallien-Krueger MB200

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Al Kraft said:
Based on my personal experience, 40 years playing bass and having owned or played on most everything that's in this discussion (plus a lot more), I recommend you do yourself a favor and at least check out the GK Neo 12" loaded cabs. For my money DWBass' post above is 100% right on the money.
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do you recommend me the GK Neo 112-II? has 300W RMS/ 8 ohms and tweeter
 
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Gaddiel Vazquez said:
do you recommend me the GK Neo 112-II? has 300W RMS/ 8 ohms and tweeter
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I think it is an excellent 112 cab. The GK gear I currently own includes two of those cabs, an MB200, MB500 and MB800. I think two of them would absolutely cover your needs. One of the Neo 212 cabs might do fine, but at 8 Ohms (and as far as I know it's only available in 8 Ohms) you may be asking a lot from just 130 watts.

Of all the gear I currently own my choice for a 212 cab that could perhaps handle a 200-300 person with the MB200 would be the Bergantino CN212 (it's 4 Ohms). I try to only discuss gear I own, have owned or played on. I am 100% confident there are other great options as well, but of the gear I know well that I think would work with your MB200 that's all I got.
 
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The amp watts don't matter near as much as the cab sensitivity. For a long time I played with 160W @ 8ohm with a cab not nearly as sensitive as the 212. Read the Amps forum sticky on Amps cabs and ohms.

Linear loudness increment takes a logarithmic power increment.

So please read up some more and quit with the ''I need all the 200w out of my amp'' mantra because it is not true.
 
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Gaddiel Vazquez said:
even though I will get just 140 Watts of the mb200 because the mb200 works on 200 Watts with 4 ohms cabinets
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If you use a 212 cabinet that is 4 Ohms you will be sending 100 Watts to each speaker (not insignificant). With a single speaker in an 8 Ohm cab (Neo 112II) you'll be sending that speaker 140 Watts. If your 212 cab is 8 Ohms, then each speaker will get 70 Watts max. My guess is that even though each speaker in that 70 Watt max case has less power to work with, you'll find the rig is louder than a single 112 getting all 140 Watts. Volume and Watts are not a 1 to 1 relationship, far from it.

In most cases, more speakers gets you more volume a lot faster than adding Watts. And remember that adding Watts only gets you so far because a single speaker (or multiple speakers) will at some point run out of capability to give you more volume due to their own constraints.
 
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Downunderwonder said:
The amp watts don't matter near as much as the cab sensitivity. For a long time I played with 160W @ 8ohm with a cab not nearly as sensitive as the 212. Read the Amps forum sticky on Amps cabs and ohms.

Linear loudness increment takes a logarithmic power increment.

So please read up some more and quit with the ''I need all the 200w out of my amp'' mantra because it is not true.
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thanks for the advice and you are right and I think many times the position or orientation of the amp are important to get the power and the sound quality, am I correct?
 
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Gaddiel Vazquez said:
thanks for the advice and you are right and I think many times the position or orientation of the amp are important to get the power and the sound quality, am I correct?
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Positioning (in a corner, close to a wall, etc.) can emphasize/reinforce bass or create booming/muddiness problems, but in most cases with a larger stage and larger room it's not as frequent an issue or as "night and day" significant as some folks believe IMO. Raising the amp up to say ear level will significantly reduce the perceived bass you're producing.
 
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sheltjo6 said:
Having owned a MB200 amp, it can get loud using an 8 ohm cab. I was surprised with how loud the amp could get.
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I had the same experience with that amp. Having used a Hartke 1400 amp (140 Watts at 4 Ohms, like 85 at 8 Ohms) with an SWR Golitah JR years ago as my small gig rig I should have known that the MB200 wouldn't disappoint.
 
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Gaddiel Vazquez said:
Hi everyone this is my first post on this forum and I'm so glad for talk with many people around the world who plays the bass, I'm looking for my second one bass amp, and I want to build my perfect rig (head and cabinet) I'm in love of Gallien-Krueger and I'm thinking about to get the MB200 who has 200 Watts with a 4 ohms cabinet and it's perfect to me because I wanna practice in my house and I wanna play in my church but I haven't find a GK cabinet to hook up with the MB200, so I mean, I wanna GK cabinet (4 Ohms), what model of GK cabinet would you recommend me? Thanks a bunch!
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I love GK as well and just got endorsed by them in February. I got a MB Fusion 800 head and 2 NEO 410 cabs. The MB 200 is also a great head. I would recommend pairing it with the NEO 112 cab. I'm actually looking at doing that same exact set up for one of the studios we do a lot of demo videos in. Here are the specs on the amp and cab.

MB 200 Specs


NEO 112 Specs
 
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I gigged a Peavey TNT130 for several years. That amp was loud with only 130w. I then gigged a Fender BXR200 for several years. That amp was also loud with 200w. Unless you're in a very loud rock band, 140w-200w is fine. The last couple of years I gigged my MB200 into an Eden 2x12 or 1 or 2 GK Neo112's. Plenty loud for my needs.
 

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