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Double Bass Good 4 year college for music?
- Thread starter tenorbass
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- Jan 24, 2002
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I've heard good things too. Their whole music program is really good from what I hear. Joel Reist, Nashville Principal Bass is one of the professors there.
Tenorbass,
Do you understand how Curtis is different from all other schools, and exactly what it takes to get in?????
Do you understand how Curtis is different from all other schools, and exactly what it takes to get in?????
imagine how good they are now...blake played per questa bella mano at tanglewood when i was there with him 2 and a half years ago and it was incredible.
I just wanted to repeat what everyone has already said about Bradetich, he is one of the finest bassists and teachers available. I know working with him has changed my playing for the better in more ways then I can count.
Paul Sharpe, the new teacher at the North Carolina School of the Arts is truly outstanding. As is Volkan Orhon at the University of Iowa.
That's actually not entirely true. A lot of orchestras these days are requesting at least a B.M. degree but they usually prefer a M.M. degree. Plus if you want a teaching job a degree is a must. Especially these days
I don't see many people that didn't go to school on the Audition Winners list there Poopsmith...
Most people that win jobs do have degrees but it is not a requirement. I have never heard of an orchestra requiring a degree.
The only time an orchestra might care if you have a degree is when they are trying to decide who to invite to an audition and having one doesn't guarantee that you will get invited. The committees look for professional experience more than what degrees you have.
I can think of two great examples of people that didn't have degrees when they won jobs. David Grossman won a position in the New York Philharmonic when he was in the undergrad program at Julliard. He decided to finish his degree before he started with the Phil but he didn't have to. The other example is John Hood. He won a one year position with the North Carolina Symphony when he was in the first year of his undergrad. From there he got into the National Symphony then won a position with the Philadelphia Orchestra when he was 24. He doesn't have a Bachelor's degree.
The only time an orchestra might care if you have a degree is when they are trying to decide who to invite to an audition and having one doesn't guarantee that you will get invited. The committees look for professional experience more than what degrees you have.
I can think of two great examples of people that didn't have degrees when they won jobs. David Grossman won a position in the New York Philharmonic when he was in the undergrad program at Julliard. He decided to finish his degree before he started with the Phil but he didn't have to. The other example is John Hood. He won a one year position with the North Carolina Symphony when he was in the first year of his undergrad. From there he got into the National Symphony then won a position with the Philadelphia Orchestra when he was 24. He doesn't have a Bachelor's degree.
I dont see your name on the Audition Winners list Peter Ferretti.
Well said Cory
Come on, don't bash people for no reason, Poopsmith.
Three other examples are Peter Lloyd, Tim Cobb, and Homer Mensch. Peter got into the Philly Orchestra when he was still at Curtis and finished the degree. Mr. Cobb got into the CSO when he was, I believe, a senior at Curtis and finished his degree. Also, I think Homer Mensch also got into the NY Phil when he was at MSM, but I'm not sure whether he finished the degree or not.
Three other examples are Peter Lloyd, Tim Cobb, and Homer Mensch. Peter got into the Philly Orchestra when he was still at Curtis and finished the degree. Mr. Cobb got into the CSO when he was, I believe, a senior at Curtis and finished his degree. Also, I think Homer Mensch also got into the NY Phil when he was at MSM, but I'm not sure whether he finished the degree or not.
You are also forgetting that I said it is pretty recent that orchestras want degrees. It is not entirely absurd. I have seen many European orchestra and else where who want that degree and like I said later in my post, a degree is a must for teaching. Especially if you want to teach at a university. Even Conservatories would prefer people who have degrees. Of course if you still find this absurd feel free to not get a degree and see how far you go. Oh and Kirsten Mr. Mensch did get his degree it was on that big dresser like thing with all of the pictures in the living room. How's chicago by the way?
Oh that's right, I remember now. Thanks !
Chicago's great! How the J? I'm going to visit you in a few weeks when I'm back for break. I'll give you a call when I'm back in town.
Chicago's great! How the J? I'm going to visit you in a few weeks when I'm back for break. I'll give you a call when I'm back in town.
you're still missing the point. These days people prefer a degree especially if you are going to teach in a college.
Hey, hold on a sec. I agree with Peter. Let us not forget how close David Grossman (only a senior at Juilliard) was to losing his job to Craig McGrundle who held both a MM and DMA from the DeVry school of music.
I think that escuela is mucho important. Many skills can be learned in school and having a good escuela and teacher on your resume helps you get the invite to an audition. However studying with a good teacher at a good escuela does not get you a job! There are plenty of unemployed musicians who studied with great teachers. It is all about how much you want it, not who taught you. Besides, there are plenty of eses who have jobs but no degree (Dave Sheets, Baltimore Symphony, John Hood, Philly, etc.)
