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guess he never sold it....

#81
That guy is so full of poopie, excuse my language. It pisses me off that he's not only trying to rip somebody off with his crap, but he's also using the name of a dead legend who can't defend himself as the means to rip someone off, claiming to have made a spiritual connection. I appreciate he has medical issues at the moment but he is a bare faced liar and should not be allowed get away with this. He's banking on nobody being able to disprove his claims and hoping for some sucker desperate for some tangible association with Jaco, rather than having any shred of evidence to back it up. Even the crappy pic he posts as proof has 60's bridge pickup position and clearly is nothing to do with the bass he's trying to scam with.

On the earlier listings he said it was all original, to his knowledge. It was only after he was pulled up on it on the ad by TBers that he started mentioning Warmoth.

This is an original 1975 Fretless Fender Jazz Bass made in Fullerton California at the original factory. Leo Fender was still there and probably made this bass himself. It is made of burly maple throughout and all original electronics and parts to the best of my knowledge. Famed and legendary bassist/composer Jaco Pastorius (of Joni Mitchell and Weather Report) gave me this bass and it has been in a case since 1982.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/JACO-PASTOR...L-/151031132425?pt=Guitar&hash=item232a283109

Then he starts getting wise and mentions Warmoth. But now he changes the story to 1983. Did Warmoth even offer two octave length fretless maple necks in 1985? Then, having gone to the trouble and expense of putting a new neck, bridge tuners and applying a decal to the new neck, it immediately goes in the case where it sits for the next 28 years? Really?

I have a story.

On November 8, 1983...

The original neck was cracked and warped; however replaced with a premium Warmoth burled-maple 24-fretless neck. The bass originally had many intonation and alignment issues. I installed Grover Tuners for better stability and intonation.
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So it's no longer all original but he did the mods himself, including adding a Fender logo, he just forgot to mention that in the first ad for $45,000? Compare the story in the first ad to the current one, spot the many differences.
 
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#82
I know this thread is a couple of weeks old, but I *finally* got a response from the guy after two weeks:

I know I'm going to get the "serious buyers only, please" spiel, but that bass is obviously a 1970's era Jazz, and the serial number indicates it was made in 1975 (S/Ns 580000-690000). All of the Jazz Basses that Jaco is known to have played were made in 1967 or earlier, and the bass in the photo shown is a white or cream '60s Jazz as evidenced by the original photo from which your photo was derived. In no way was Jaco playing a sunburst instrument in the original photograph. I believe you're quite mistaken in saying the photo represents Jaco playing the bass up for sale.

You tell people "do your research", but then are actively resistant to helping potential buyers examine important details regarding this instrument, such as markings in the neck pocket and pickup routes. Well, I did my research, and I can find exactly ZERO that corroborates your story regarding this bass's provenance.

His response?

I will leave the history debate to historians. I was there! If you weren't, then you have nothing. "Common sense, ain't common."

It's still listed for $20K. I found out this past week that one of my co-workers is good friends with Mary Pastorius - might see about giving her a heads-up on this.
 
#83
CGremlin said:
I know this thread is a couple of weeks old, but I *finally* got a response from the guy after two weeks:

I know I'm going to get the "serious buyers only, please" spiel, but that bass is obviously a 1970's era Jazz, and the serial number indicates it was made in 1975 (S/Ns 580000-690000). All of the Jazz Basses that Jaco is known to have played were made in 1967 or earlier, and the bass in the photo shown is a white or cream '60s Jazz as evidenced by the original photo from which your photo was derived. In no way was Jaco playing a sunburst instrument in the original photograph. I believe you're quite mistaken in saying the photo represents Jaco playing the bass up for sale.

You tell people "do your research", but then are actively resistant to helping potential buyers examine important details regarding this instrument, such as markings in the neck pocket and pickup routes. Well, I did my research, and I can find exactly ZERO that corroborates your story regarding this bass's provenance.

His response?

I will leave the history debate to historians. I was there! If you weren't, then you have nothing. "Common sense, ain't common."

It's still listed for $20K. I found out this past week that one of my co-workers is good friends with Mary Pastorius - might see about giving her a heads-up on this.
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Should have told him you were there too and that's how you know he's full of it, I mean you were just as much there as he was.
 
#84
Just sent him a question...

"I have a story for you! The year was 1978, I was at a gig in Toronto and some scrawny dude hopped up on stage in the middle of our set. You'll never guess who it was. Jaco. He asked if he could sit in on a couple tunes. I agreed, handed over my bass, and never saw it again. As soon as Jaco strapped the bass on, he made a b line for the exit. I loved that bass, my cousin Frank Sinatra had bought it for me and I believe that's why he stole it. I've been searching for it for years, and now I have finally found it. Seeing as how Jaco gave you the bass, after stealing it from me, I think it would be only fair for you to either A. Pay me for the bass or B. Give it back. If you'd like to buy it, the cost will be $30,000. I would also like to make sure you have the funds, so please give me your bank account info. If not, I'll pm you my address so you may send it over. Thanks homie!"

I'm probably going to get the "serious buyers only" line.
 
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#85
MVE said:
Just for a second, let's assume his story is true.

How much is it worth???

Every bass Jaco used for any substantial period of time is fairly well documented. So, if his story is true Jaco could not have owned this instrument for more than a few weeks. It certainly isn't Babe Ruth's home run ball... At best, it is just a bass that Jaco owned for a very short period of time that he never once played in front of a camera or paid a tech to work on and has absolutely no verifiable provenance.

My vote, 1500.00.... And that's a stretch, assuming it plays and sounds pretty good.

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It should be noted that this instrument has attained a certain amount of notoriety here among TBers, this alone adds a couple hondo to the value at least. ;)
Who among us wouldn't want to own the famous crazy guys fake Jaco bass??? Lol.
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I would buy this bass in a minute, but I just dropped $35,000 for a Ric 4002 on Ebay.
 
#91
>>"This is an original 1975 Fretless Fender Jazz Bass made in Fullerton California at the original factory. Leo Fender was still there and probably made this bass himself."<<

Leo Fender was in his late sixties in 1975. I doubt he was spending much time cranking out J-basses on the shop floor, lol.
 

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