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Hartke LH500

#701
PatrickJohnson said:
I've read through this thread and can't seem to find any thoughts on running the 500 through two Hydrive 112s, which I just recently acquired...

Has anyone done it?

There is an HA7000 nearby that I may try tomorrow. Seems like two 350 watt channels would push them well.

Thanks- Patrick
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When I went to try the amp out for the first time, first I played through the LH-1000 through two Hydrive 4x10s.

Then Larry had me try out the LH-500 through two of the Hydrive 2X12s. That sounded really good, and I think I'm going to pick a couple of those up soon.

On another note, I decided to try my LH-500 flat on a gig last night, through my Mesa 4X10. It was very thick and midrangy. It had a bit of a growl too, probably because the mids were pushing the power amp harder.

At some point I brought the bass up to 10:00 and the mids down to 4:00. At the end of the night I asked the sound guy how the bass was and he said "your stage volume was too loud and you didn't have enough low end" lol I was at the same volume as usual, but the mid heavy tone made it seem a lot louder.

So I think I'll go with my usual settings next time. :) Didn't work as well as I expected with this cab.
 
#702
SGD Lutherie said:
When I went to try the amp out for the first time, first I played through the LH-1000 through two Hydrive 4x10s.

Then Larry had me try out the LH-500 through two of the Hydrive 2X12s. That sounded really good, and I think I'm going to pick a couple of those up soon.

On another note, I decided to try my LH-500 flat on a gig last night, through my Mesa 4X10. It was very thick and midrangy. It had a bit of a growl too, probably because the mids were pushing the power amp harder.

At some point I brought the bass up to 10:00 and the mids down to 4:00. At the end of the night I asked the sound guy how the bass was and he said "your stage volume was too loud and you didn't have enough low end" lol I was at the same volume as usual, but the mid heavy tone made it seem a lot louder.

So I think I'll go with my usual settings next time. :) Didn't work as well as I expected with this cab.
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On my Carvin cab I can't run the amp flat either. Too much mid and not enough bass. But that's the cab cause all my amps are like that with that cab. With my Alien Alliance it sounds perfect flat. Amazing the difference in cabs. I wish I could try out a Hydrive cab. I would like to know how they sound with them.
 
#704
Ive been gassing for a hartke rig for awhile now. I like the simple layout. I tend to fiddle constantly when I have to many choices. Currently running a GK 1001RB through a Ampeg Fridge. Im thinking of going with a pair of Hydrive 410. The question is should I look at the LH500 or the LH1000?
 
#707
AdamR said:
I did notice that there isnt much of a price difference. Im a bit confused with the rear layout though. The 500 speaker outs are labeled 8ohms, but all the speaker outs on the 1000 are labeled ohms. Can I run a singole 8ohm cabinet off of the 1000 ? Im guessing yes.
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There was a thread around here on this very subject only about a week ago...

The manual is online - lots of great information there...

Yes, you can run a single 8-Ohm cabinet either through a single side (1/4" phone) or the Speakon in Bridged mode.
 
#708
The difference between the two depends on what speakers you are using. I got the LH500 because I'm only running one cab.

I'm using it with either a Mesa 4X10 or Hartke 410XL. Neither cab would handle 1,000 watts bridged, and running it with one cab (using one side of the power section) would only give me about 250 watts. I also don't plan on using both cabs at the same time since I'm selling the Mesa.

So I went with the 500, and get 350 watts with one cab. That's never been not enough power, even for outdoor gigs.

But if you plan on running two Hydrives, the 1000 is hard to beat.

This is such a great sounding amp. :bassist:
 
#711
I just got a used LH500 and I'm looking forward to trying it at the gig next week. It's very loud and punchy through a (borrowed) portabass 210 cabinet. At some point, I plan to get 2 of the 210XL cabs. I do feel like it could use some dirt to give it a little more personality, but eventually a preamp/pedal will take care of that.
 
#712
dannnnn said:
I just got a used LH500 and I'm looking forward to trying it at the gig next week. It's very loud and punchy through a (borrowed) portabass 210 cabinet. At some point, I plan to get 2 of the 210XL cabs. I do feel like it could use some dirt to give it a little more personality, but eventually a preamp/pedal will take care of that.
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Keep in mind that the volume is the master volume. Input gain is preset. But if you crank it up past 1 o'clock it gets a nice crunchy edge to it.

I use a modded Boss ODB-3 for dirt. :bassist:
 
#713
Quick question, don't know if this is the right place.

I have this amp, and I recently got a deluxe big muff pi. As you may or may not know, that pedal's got a little switch to select between normal or -10 dB. My question is:

I have an active bass and plug it in the active jack of this amp. If I had that pedal in the line, what should I do? pedal>amp selecting in both the active side/jack?
 
#715
elonoic said:
Quick question, don't know if this is the right place.
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Since your question is really about the pedal and its interaction with an active bass, you might get a more directed answer in Effects...

I have an active bass and plug it in the active jack of this amp. If I had that pedal in the line, what should I do? pedal>amp selecting in both the active side/jack?
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Onward. Short answer is "I don't know" but I'm glad to speculate at some length in the hope it may be helpful. If it;s not, just disregard...

I don't have this amp, but I do have its LH1000 big brother, and the input sides are the same. All my basses (not that many...) are active, and I never use the Active input. Conventional wisdom is that you'd need a _really_ hot output to overdrive the 'Passive' input. But maybe you have such a bass. Or maybe you find the amp more pleasing if it's cranked a bit.

So the longer short answer is: since you won't damage anything (except perhaps your tone) try all 4 possibilities.

Active / Normal
Active / -10dB
Passive / Normal
Passive / -10dB

And just pick the one that sounds best to you.

My very limited experience has been that it's really hard to overdrive the LH input, so you probably have more options than you may now think.

Try 'em all, pick one you like...
 
#716
SGD Lutherie said:
The manual does say that, but that's not what Larry says:



He also told me that in person when I first tried the amp out at his 48th St Bass Lounge.

All passive Fender style tone stacks work this way. The EQ on my BK Butler Blue Tube is exactly the same way as is the Alembic tube preamp.
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Funny I just saw this. I found this out through trial and error, my favorite setting with a Precision bass is mids 10 bass 4 and treble 0-2. With a Jazz bass it's mids 8 bass 4-6 and treble 2. It is a pretty clean sound but not sterile, and it can get loud with one or two cabs...
 
#717
ArtechnikA said:
Since your question is really about the pedal and its interaction with an active bass, you might get a more directed answer in Effects...


Onward. Short answer is "I don't know" but I'm glad to speculate at some length in the hope it may be helpful. If it;s not, just disregard...

I don't have this amp, but I do have its LH1000 big brother, and the input sides are the same. All my basses (not that many...) are active, and I never use the Active input. Conventional wisdom is that you'd need a _really_ hot output to overdrive the 'Passive' input. But maybe you have such a bass. Or maybe you find the amp more pleasing if it's cranked a bit.

So the longer short answer is: since you won't damage anything (except perhaps your tone) try all 4 possibilities.

Active / Normal
Active / -10dB
Passive / Normal
Passive / -10dB

And just pick the one that sounds best to you.

My very limited experience has been that it's really hard to overdrive the LH input, so you probably have more options than you may now think.

Try 'em all, pick one you like...
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Yeah, guess effects would be a better place..

Thanks for your answer! I was kinda reluctant in trying, 'cause you know, quite newbie with this stuff, first real amp I buy with my money, can never be too careful :P I'll try all those options then, see what I get the better sound out of.
Don't know if it matters, but I play with an Ibanez SR500 :)
 
#718
elonoic said:
Quick question, don't know if this is the right place.

I have this amp, and I recently got a deluxe big muff pi. As you may or may not know, that pedal's got a little switch to select between normal or -10 dB. My question is:

I have an active bass and plug it in the active jack of this amp. If I had that pedal in the line, what should I do? pedal>amp selecting in both the active side/jack?
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I plug my active bass into the passive jack. I think it sounds better that way.

I think the normal setting on the muff should be fine.
 
#720
SGD Lutherie said:
I plug my active bass into the passive jack. I think it sounds better that way.

I think the normal setting on the muff should be fine.
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Yeah, I've tried normal setting on the muff + passive input. It sounds a bit different, but the main thing is I don't have to crank it up so much, which makes me happy :D

By cranking up I mean I never went past 12 o'clock, with passive + normal muff I don't go past 9 in the rehearsals lol
 

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