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Has anybody here lied and passed a polygraph?

Honor and integrity are words bandied about carelessly, and often, by people who don't really understand what they mean.

Point me to the statute that supports it, or give up the ground.

US code Title 18, Section 1001

Specifically referenced on the Declaration of Federal Employment. OMB No. 3206-0182, among others. Second paragraph of the instructions.

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In my prior employment (Military/Government), I was required to take a significant entry/application polygraph examination, undergo a 1.5 year background investigation and then undergo extensive interviews and polygraph testing every 5 years while serving in my position. My initial employment polygraph test was 4 1/2 hours long due to the nature of work I had previously done and the position for which I was applying. Eventually I carried a TS/SCI clearance with seven additional addendum clearances.

Bottom line...you're not going to beat or even remotely confuse a well trained polygrapher and/or the current computer based polygraph systems. It's their job. It's what they do and they are highly trained and highly skilled. A polygraph examination isn't just a series of "yes" or "no" questions. It is absolutely nothing like "the movies". It is a detailed and exacting procedure designed to identify behavior and physical responses that are all but impossible to conceal or alter. It goes far beyond galvanic skin response, pulse, respiration, etc.

As previously discussed, should you make the choice to try and lie, deceive, disrupt, alter or in any way be less than truthful with your responses during a real polygraph examination...you'll only be an amusing story around the office after "the event".

Just my $.02 as always.
 
I was required to take a significant entry/application polygraph examination, undergo a 1.5 year background investigation and then undergo extensive interviews and polygraph testing every 5 years while serving in my position. My initial employment polygraph test was 4 1/2 hours long due to the nature of work I had previously done and the position for which I was applying. Eventually I carried a TS/SCI clearance with seven additional addendum clearances.

Sounds familiar!
I'm not sure how long our background investigations went on, but I do recall sharing stories amongst ourselves, long after the poly & the shrinks talked to us, that people in our past were being contacted.
 
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Honor and integrity are words bandied about carelessly, and often, by people who don't really understand what they mean. (not trying to cast aspersions - just not into internet strangers preaching morality to other internet strangers)

Polygraph tests are BS and any employer who uses one deserves to be lied to. I would go in there and spin some serious yarns.
Interesting. Do you have any other sundry criteria under which anyone "deserves to be lied to"?
 
In my prior employment (Military/Government), I was required to take a significant entry/application polygraph examination, undergo a 1.5 year background investigation and then undergo extensive interviews and polygraph testing every 5 years while serving in my position. My initial employment polygraph test was 4 1/2 hours long due to the nature of work I had previously done and the position for which I was applying. Eventually I carried a TS/SCI clearance with seven additional addendum clearances.

Bottom line...you're not going to beat or even remotely confuse a well trained polygrapher and/or the current computer based polygraph systems. It's their job. It's what they do and they are highly trained and highly skilled. A polygraph examination isn't just a series of "yes" or "no" questions. It is absolutely nothing like "the movies". It is a detailed and exacting procedure designed to identify behavior and physical responses that are all but impossible to conceal or alter. It goes far beyond galvanic skin response, pulse, respiration, etc.

As previously discussed, should you make the choice to try and lie, deceive, disrupt, alter or in any way be less than truthful with your responses during a real polygraph examination...you'll only be an amusing story around the office after "the event".

Just my $.02 as always.
In going to tell the truth.
 
The lack of people whose first response was something other than "tell the truth" is a bit disturbing...

I know most of you are kidding around, but damn. Lying is wrong. We crucify anyone who misses a detail on a CL ad, but we'd encourage this guy to lie?

Lying is wrong.

Cheating is wrong.

Killing is wrong.

Bigotry, abuse and alcoholism are wrong too.

Do I need internet strangers to explain these things to me, or am I slightly older than three?

I swear, the Talkbass Boy Scout Squad takes these things VERY seriously.
 
Lying is wrong.

Cheating is wrong.

Killing is wrong.

Bigotry, abuse and alcoholism are wrong too.

Do I need internet strangers to explain these things to me, or am I slightly older than three?

I swear, the Talkbass Boy Scout Squad takes these things VERY seriously.
I think you're on my side, but alcoholism is not wrong, it's a disease and I don't wish it on you cuz it's terrible.
 
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