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Has anyone "downgraded" from a boutique bass?

Mar 30, 2023
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I recently had to put my boutique bass for sale due to an unforeseen financial situation. It's my sole bass, so my intention is to grab a cheaper bass in the US$1,500 range when it sells.

I went to the store today to try some basses and came away disappointed... Basses I happily owned years ago seemed unplayable. 7.25-inch and 9.5-inch radiuses felt odd and uncomfortable. Action and string height felt miles apart from my bass's neck relief of 0.010" and string height of 2/32. Strings were stiff. The Fender Jazz Ultra's preamp sounded metallic and sterile.

I guess a lot of these issues could be fixed with a proper setup, but I don't know. I guess I've been spoiled.

Has anyone "downgraded" from a boutique bass? How was your experience?
 
Not exactly what you’re looking for but, similar…

I have a Fodera, a MusicMan, a Mexi Fender, and a late 90s Ibanez ATK. For the last couple years the MusicMan has gotten by far the most use, my old beat up ATK plays like, well an old beat up ATK lol. Clearly the Fodera and MusicMan are the better instruments in every way, but the ATK and my wife’s Fender hold their own just fine.
 
I recently had to put my boutique bass for sale due to an unforeseen financial situation. It's my sole bass, so my intention is to grab a cheaper bass in the US$1,500 range when it sells.

I went to the store today to try some basses and came away disappointed... Basses I happily owned years ago seemed unplayable. 7.25-inch and 9.5-inch radiuses felt odd and uncomfortable. Action and string height felt miles apart from my bass's neck relief of 0.010" and string height of 2/32. Strings were stiff. The Fender Jazz Ultra's preamp sounded metallic and sterile.

I guess a lot of these issues could be fixed with a proper setup, but I don't know. I guess I've been spoiled.

Has anyone "downgraded" from a boutique bass? How was your experience?
I’m the opposite. I recently tried an Alembic and Fodera and was very underwhelmed. My favorite basses are Spector & Rickenbacker with my Fender right there in a close 3rd.
 
There is basses in that price range that’ ll get you the feel you like. Action height isn’t something boutique builders have found a magic formula for in some old temple ruins or something. . I’ve seen guys with boutique basses I could park my car between the frets and strings and mass produced basses with super low action. If you like flatter radiuses fingerboards, a Sadowsky Metroexpress 4 strings is 12”. Some of the Yamaha’s 5 strings are around 23.5” . A $1500.00 budget will get you something that may not make you forget a one of a kind bass with Yggdrasil fingerboard and fret markers reclaimed from The Crown Jewels but it should definitely get you something nice you’ll enjoy playing.
 
Has anyone "downgraded" from a boutique bass? How was your experience?
Yep, from a whole bunch of them including a number of Alembic Series. These had horrible ergonomics, but I loved the sound and knew how to use the pickups and filters.

Nowadays, I love my Ibanez SR and BTBs, some from the modest lines and some up to the Workshop range, so ~$1500 max new (some were S/H though). I like the look and the feel of them, and though I'd like an SR5006, with some different electronics, which I can do easily and cheaply, I don't see the benefit beyond it being prettier, and the MIJ cache which isn't that big a deal to me as my MIIs are excellent. I'm making some smallish mods to mine to suit my particular body to improve the ergonomics just that last few %; these will make minor permanent mods, but who really cares on a $800 bass I now love, versus a $18000+ one that would depreciate significantly because of it? Customs also mean that it's harder to sell because it's designed for your tastes.

If I won a large sum of money I'd consider another Alembic, but at current prices, I can get a whole bunch of other instruments that would likely give me more fun and pleasure overall. The Alembic would likely be specified with a neck the same dimensions as my SRs too...

My last gig was with my cheapest SR206 and it sounded and played fine. I used it because I'd just moved and it was unpacked first by dint of how it went on/off the truck. My backup is a Steinberger Spirit 5 because it's small and takes no stage space and sounds and plays well. I think it cost me $400 and $10 for the strap pin extender.
 
Pull up a chair.

I owned two Alembic five-strings, a rare, red-tinted Series shape Spoiler, and a custom green tint Elan Five I had built for myself. Boutique with a Capital B.

They're everything you think they would be. Wood rarely seen anywhere else, and the woodworking and quality are in a class by themselves. They make their own hardware (even their own truss rods) and of course, mil-spec bespoke electronics and pickups. Who else specs stainless steel pickup screws so as not to disturb the magnetics in the pickups? And on and on. Nobody goes to the lengths they go to as far as building a lifetime instrument.

Some years ago, my wife's back problems backed us in the corner of requiring surgery. And as often happens, back surgery doesn't always go as hoped. She couldn't work any more, filed for partial disability, and we lost her income. And as anyone who's been there knows, Uncle Sam takes your money every week or quarter relentlessly, but file for disability and you're just gonna wait.

We were scrambling for money, and it became obvious that selling the two of them would pay our bills for several months (seven, as it turned out), so that was that and off they went. I'd bought them smart, made money on one and broke even on the other, so I'd owned two Alembics for free, couldn't complain about that ! There's no bass that's worth getting behind on bills or short-changing her, and thank goodness I could play those two cards. She comes first, and I'm glad I could do it.

But . . . . now I didn't have a bass in the house. And the play money budget was much tighter.

So I bought (the first 4 string I'd owned in 30-odd years) a Squier James Johnston Jazz Bass, as I was a sucker for that matching head Lake Placid Blue look. Then later I bought the Squier Active Contemporary Jazz 5 and the Squier P5. Amazing axes for the price, I'm in all three for a little over a grand. Wow.

So what did I find out?

While I sounded like a better Me on the Alembics, I still sound like Me on the Squiers. They're solid, stay in tune, they're quiet, and they feel right. And I enjoy playing them possible a little more as I don't have to worry about a little mark or bumping into something with an axe as grand as the Alembics. I've been around long enough to do my own setups and know what it takes to make a good bass solid, so they're fine. And the idea that I would derail our finances or put my wife out for a couple of basses was a non-starter.

It's the enjoyment, the buzz of doin' it that's simply not price dependent. It's just not. I have a ball with them and that's all that really matters to me, and were I still playing out, I would not hesitate to gig with them.

We buy instruments for hundreds of reasons, and a lot of guys ego would probably not allow them to go to Squiers after Alembics. I could, and I'm glad I did.



 
I wanted to love the boutique stuff. They are beautiful instruments. Who wouldn't want a 4-string Ferrari?

I've let go of a Fodera, Ken Smith, Alembic, Kubicki, etc. and now play a plain old Fender MIM P bass and MIJ Jazz bass.

It took me many years to realize that Fenders (or Fender clones) are my favorites. I just think they sound and feel the best when you find the right ones.

And a Plek'ed Fender plays as good as a new Fodera. I know...I have owned both.

I agree about most basses in a typical music store play like crap. I have never played any Fender bass in any music store over the past 30 years that plays as good as either of the two Fenders I own now. I have also played multiple Foderas in music stores that played pretty poorly. Simple adjustment would have resolved it, but still.

I did buy a EBMM reserve recently that played amazing but unfortunately returned it for reasons I won't go in to here.
 
I had to let go of really high end boutique stuff maybe twenty-three years ago. I have found that there is a lot of less expensive gear that is well made, comfy, sounds good, and will take a nice setup. If you are not hung up on name brand or bragging rights, you can get a bass that will play just fine for modest money. Good luck on your search!:thumbsup:
 
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just viewed your profile, looks like you like 6 stringers and soapbars. Im more into the vintage fender thing, but I do know Ibanez its absolutely shredding in the bass and guitar world right now. Ibanez Premium SR1356B 6-string Bass Guitar - Dual Mocha Burst Flat

I was thinking just that when I wrote my post. I've been playing bass for almost 20 years now and I was playing Fenders exclusively for 15 of those years. I only tried Fenders today. Maybe I've come to prefer non FSO. I'll take a look at Ibanez! Thanks!