Help me to choose Bacchus vs Sire

[adityajazz]

Hi, I'm confused to choose between this two basses.

1. Bacchus Universe WJB5-BP/ACT.
   
2. Sire V7 2nd gen 5strings.

I want to ask which is better in:

1. Build Quality
2. Playability
3. Low B Sound/Tension.

Or may there is another alternative arround this price point.
Thanks

 

[charlie monroe]

I own neither.

I have heard no reports of deficiencies in Bacchus products.

Sire came out of the gate strong, but as time moves on, I am hearing various quality complaints about them.

If you can, play and inspect - then buy.

 

[adityajazz]

I own neither.

I have heard no reports of deficiencies in Bacchus products.

Sire came out of the gate strong, but as time moves on, I am hearing various quality complaints about them.

If you can, play and inspect - then buy.

thanks for repply.
I found alot of review about sire v series but for not for bacchus universe series or global series, yeah there is review about high end one like craft/handmade series by deviser but not enough to represent the lower end series.

And I got one review about sire that say sire is one of fender copy that has wobble low B string cause lack of low b string tension. And bacchus has great low B tension.

 

[Woodchuck]

You can't go wrong with a first generation Sire. I own this Bacchus Craft series, and it's a beast!

 

[sharkbait130]

Don't know about the Bacchus. Never owned one or played one. Gatorbait (my son) has been rocking a Sire for several years now and LOVES it. I've played it a couple of times and it's a darned fine instrument. Floppy B strings are a string problem , not a bass problem. A 34" neck is pretty much the same on any bass no matter the manufacturer. Same with a 35" neck.

 

[adityajazz]

View attachment 3722275 You can't go wrong with a first generation Sire. I own this Bacchus Craft series, and it's a beast!

Wow beautiful bass
It is Bacchus Craft TF5 right? Higher end model it's arround $1300 too expensive for me.
Hmm, still confused which one to choose. I like Sire Preamp but bacchus universe looks good too.

Don't know about the Bacchus. Never owned one or played one. Gatorbait (my son) has been rocking a Sire for several years now and LOVES it. I've played it a couple of times and it's a darned fine instrument. Floppy B strings are a string problem , not a bass problem. A 34" neck is pretty much the same on any bass no matter the manufacturer. Same with a 35" neck.

Hmm so do you have recomended strings for 34" scale bass?
I like stainlessteel strings, I've use DR & Dunlop 45/105 on my 4 strings Squier Jazz Bass.

 

[Woodchuck]

Wow beautiful bass
It is Bacchus Craft TF5 right? Higher end model.
Hmm, still confused which one to choose. I like Sire Preamp but bacchus looks good too.

This is the TF4, which has an Aguilar pre. If you can find a first generation Sire for a good price, snatch it up!!!

 

[adityajazz]

This is the TF4, which has an Aguilar pre. If you can find a first generation Sire for a good price, snatch it up!!!

Hmm it's difficult to find 2nd hand 1st gen Sire in my country (Indonesia).
Btw TF series has great sound, aguilar obp 2 pre?

 

[sharkbait130]

Wow beautiful bass
It is Bacchus Craft TF5 right? Higher end model it's arround $1300 too expensive for me.
Hmm, still confused which one to choose. I like Sire Preamp but bacchus universe looks good too.

Hmm so do you have recomended strings for 34" scale bass?
I like stainlessteel strings, I've use DR & Dunlop 45/105 on my 4 strings Squier Jazz Bass.

I've been using D'Addario Chromes for years , and don't have any experience with S.S. strings. I have no idea what strings Gatorbait is using right now but I know they are not flats. If I talk to him in the next couple of days , I'll ask him and try to get back to you.

 

[DWBass]

Bacchus!

 

[adityajazz]

I've been using D'Addario Chromes for years , and don't have any experience with S.S. strings. I have no idea what strings Gatorbait is using right now but I know they are not flats. If I talk to him in the next couple of days , I'll ask him and try to get back to you.

I've use D'Addario XL EXL170 but it break up often, and I have wet/sweating hand so it won't last longer than any SS strings I use now.

Thanks for your help.

Bacchus!

Why, please mention your reason?

 

[adityajazz]

After compare the sound from Sire V7 2nd gen VS Bacchus Universe WJB5-BP/ACT, What I hear is Sire has more vintage character side and Bacchus has more modern character side.
Am I right?

 

[Tom Bomb]

After compare the sound from Sire V7 2nd gen VS Bacchus Universe WJB5-BP/ACT, What I hear is Sire has more vintage character side and Bacchus has more modern character side.
Am I right?

Regarding Bacchus, If you're looking at the WJB5-BP/ACT, here's the list of goodies:

• Body : Burl Poplar(back:Mahogany)
• Neck : Maple/Rosewood 5P
• Fingerboard : Rosewood
• Nut : Bone
• Bridge : Vintage Fixed Type
• Machineheads : Open Gear Type
• Pickup : Original Stack-JJ set
• Preamp : Original
• Control : Master Volume, Balancer, Treble, Middle, Bass
• Scale : 34 inch
• Width at Nut : 46.0mm
• Fingerboard Radius : 400R
• Finish : Urethane
• String : RW.045-.130

So you know where the woods differ which may help with understanding the tonal differences you're exploring. I'm not up on the vintage / modern differences between your two choices. And I don't have any playing experience with Sires. They are well liked.

What I can say is, the lower priced Bacchus gear can be quite good, according to guys like this chap, who sells them, and clearly has a passion for them,

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I have an earlier version of that bass and it's truly great. But it's Japanese made and, I believe, a higher order instrument. They do like to make good guitars, and are known for their quality, right across the board, generally. Sadly, I have very limited experience.

I also have one of these:

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I think these are Chinese made but I believe they assemble them in Japan. Mine's got a very different top, flamey spalted burl maple. What you see above is listed here:

They don't muck around However, quality is, at least to a degree, reflected in the price. Fair enough. Bob's didn't come cheap, out of the factory. I got mine secondhand I like my fretless four better but I do need to get some new strings for Bob. The B string's a little tinny (They all are ) Once I've done that, and I'm in no hurry, I'll be better able to sum them up in comparison. But it's a solid active five. True. Traditional woods. No complaints. The BJB JP's a dream.

The shop does have a good deal of data, handy in translation. There's also an English page here — helps with navigating etc.. Good luck, adityajazz