Help my tone

[Blockman]

Can someone please take the time to give some tips and advice on my tone, it would be really appreciated since I cant figure it out myself. I play with a pick and I have a tone that I kind of like on my A,D,G stings but they get annoying to listen to fast and sound very bright even at low volumes and when when I play E it get tooo bassy and just fills the room and overlaps the other instruments which doesn't sound good.

I mostly play metal/thrash metal with only one guitarist and I want that clear tone so you actually hear what the bass is doing but I also want a even bass frequency that accommodates and ties the guitar and drums together well but doesn't get to much, a little like Jason Newsted (Metallica) or Rex Brown (Pantera).

So I basically want every frequency to be even but still so you can hear the brighter tones as well as keeping that little klang and metal tone. This Is a working example but not exactly how I want since its hard to find what I mean.


I play a Warwick corvette and use the pedals and amp in the pictures. The picture's are not my setting btw but I would like tips please
(MXR M87 compressor)
(Behringer V-Tone Bass BDI21)
(Kustom DE300HD)

 

[And I]

if you can post a recording of what things sound like now, folks may be able to provide some feedback / suggestions. knowing where you'd like to be without knowing where you are, there's really nothing anyone can say that will be truly helpful.

 

[Blockman]

if you can post a recording of what things sound like now, folks may be able to provide some feedback / suggestions. knowing where you'd like to be without knowing where you are, there's really nothing anyone can say that will be truly helpful.

Alright man, can't post right now since I don't have any recordings but when I do I post it in this thread.

 

[Stylee Mousse]

Is this always in the same room? Like a rehearsal room? The low E might be reinforced by the particular space

 

[Blockman]

Is this always in the same room? Like a rehearsal room? The low E might be reinforced by the particular space

haven't tried anywhere else really since almost always play in that room with that equipment right now. Maybe the space of the basement room is a problem then? I guess I will need to try it elsewhere.

 

[Stylee Mousse]

It could be that, particularly if the room is cube shaped, you are hitting a resonant frequency with yer E (or harmonic frequencies associated with it).

do you boost bass frequencies on your amp or pedals? If so try not doing so. Same with high eq and presence, mid cut switches - start with them in neutral positions and work from there.

 

[Blockman]

It could be that, particularly if the room is cube shaped, you are hitting a resonant frequency with yer E (or harmonic frequencies associated with it).

do you boost bass frequencies on your amp or pedals? If so try not doing so. Same with high eq and presence, mid cut switches - start with them in neutral positions and work from there.

Okay, thanks will try that. I posted EQ settings and such in a earlier post.

 

[And I]

confession: when I first read your post i clicked on the youtuhe link and thought this was your example of your recording you were looking for help on and i was like "WHAT?? THIS BASS TONE IS AWESOME!!!" haha

 

[Blockman]

confession: when I first read your post i clicked on the youtuhe link and thought this was your example of your recording you were looking for help on and i was like "WHAT?? THIS BASS TONE IS AWESOME!!!" haha

Oh hahahaha no, maybe should have made that clearer. Yes it is a awesome tone and

 

[YourGuitarist]

I find that EQing to have the same presence for all strings is a challenge as E and below tend to lack a lot of the high mid bite of the upper strings.

If your E string is boomy, I second those questioning the room. I also suspect that the cabinet could have a narrow boost in the 40-80 range before rolling off the subs. You might consider notching in that area if you can.

Otherwise, I would try to add mids back (the BDI has a large inherent scoop in the 800 region); or moreso move the mid/high boost somewhat lower. For my taste, I find that the lower strings carry their definition from ~400-1300. From what I know the presence knob on BDDIs extends progressively lower as you crank it. Maybe cranking presence and dialing back treble to tame it will have a more forward sound.

 

[Blockman]

I find that EQing to have the same presence for all strings is a challenge as E and below tend to lack a lot of the high mid bite of the upper strings.

If your E string is boomy, I second those questioning the room. I also suspect that the cabinet could have a narrow boost in the 40-80 range before rolling off the subs. You might consider notching in that area if you can.

Otherwise, I would try to add mids back (the BDI has a large inherent scoop in the 800 region); or moreso move the mid/high boost somewhat lower. For my taste, I find that the lower strings carry their definition from ~400-1300. From what I know the presence knob on BDDIs extends progressively lower as you crank it. Maybe cranking presence and dialing back treble to tame it will have a more forward sound.

Alright, thanks a lot. Gonna try other suggestions first before looking into cab speakers but thanks.

 

[YourGuitarist]

Yeah obviously a cabinet cannot be "twiddled" but it nonetheless has a voicing to consider in the signal path.

 

[Blockman]

Yeah obviously a cabinet cannot be "twiddled" but it nonetheless has a voicing to consider in the signal path.

Noted. Thanks