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Herbie Hancock - I thought it was you

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by verstft, Oct 28, 2018.


  1. verstft

    verstft

    May 16, 2016
    Can somebody help me understand what's going on with the progressions in this song?
    Simple analysis and key of the first verse and chorus. Changes Key?

    I can play the basic chord changes and patterns but kind of clueless about the harmonic quality of the whole thing.

     
  2. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    I can't view the attachment at this time. But the song you *might* be thinking of is actually called "It Had to Be You". I am pretty sure that Hancock didn't write. In fact I'm very sure. But I have no doubt that some other jazz musicians who look similar, with similar ethnicity, may have played the song. Good luck. No need to thank me because I am always happy to help with my knowledge.
     
  3. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    Here is a very quick (1st cup of coffee!) sketch of the basic changes & form of the Verse and Chorus, as I hear it.
    Thanks!
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  4. Whousedtoplay

    Whousedtoplay

    May 18, 2013
    TEXAS
    Is your Ab7sus 9 chord = Gbmaj7(ascending Gb - Bb - Db - F) with Ab in the bass?
     
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  5. Whousedtoplay

    Whousedtoplay

    May 18, 2013
    TEXAS
    D major as our tonal center.

    (After that after that "modifying" chord of A7(9))

    Dmaj7 - Bmin7 - Gmaj7 - Emin7(9)sus4(?) (as Gmaj7add2/E) - A7(9 and/or 13) ... Dmaj7.
     
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  6. Whousedtoplay

    Whousedtoplay

    May 18, 2013
    TEXAS
    Due to Herbie Hancock's intricate "chordification" - only as a very simplified claim - it's in Ab major, even though it starts with Bbmaj7 after that "modifying" chord of F7(9).
    Most probably, the modulation process to D major for Chorus starts with Bmaj7(9) - G#min7/9 - Emaj7/Emin7.......
     
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  7. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    Yes.
     
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  8. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    More precisely - I wrote "Ab7,9,sus. (Not "....sus 9...")
    Just want to be clear - I would never write "sus 9".
    Thanks, WUTP!
     
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  9. Whousedtoplay

    Whousedtoplay

    May 18, 2013
    TEXAS
    Sorry, I am always so messy!
     
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  10. Herbie Hancock fans, Help! | Harmony Central


    Intro:
    |Gbmaj7/Ab | % | % | Eb/F |

    Verse (sings):

    |Bbmaj7 | % | Db/Eb | % |Abmaj7 | % | Fm9 | % |
    |Dbmaj7 |Dbmaj7 F7b5| Emaj7 | % |Bmaj7| % |Abm9 | % |
    |Emaj7 | % | G/A | % |Dmaj7 | % | 2/4 G/A (pickup: "I thought it was you")

    Chorus
    4/4
    |Dmaj7 | Dmaj7 G/A | Bm9 | Bm9 G/A |
    |Gmaj7 | Gmaj7 G/A | Em7 | F#m/A Em/A D/A Em/A |
    |Dmaj7 | % |
    repeat. Last two bars of second time:
    |Dmaj7 | F13 |


    repeat verse
     
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  11. Bowing in your direction
     
  12. Whousedtoplay

    Whousedtoplay

    May 18, 2013
    TEXAS
    Don,
    I hear the following notes in the bass with your notated chords G7sus and Gb7sus:
    F - Gb(F#).
    The keyboard notes - I hear- with F are
    descending - Eb- (C) - B - A - G.
    With Gb(F#) in the bass, plus some Ab(G#) notes, I hear the following notes on the keyboard (ascending) G#(Ab) - B - D#(Eb).
     
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  13. Whousedtoplay

    Whousedtoplay

    May 18, 2013
    TEXAS
    In Verse I hear Bbmaj7 (third inversion) - Bbmin7 (third inversion) with Eb in the bass.
    There are also some other disagreements with your sheet.
     
  14. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    You are CORRECT! NO G7,9,sus there.
    Sorry... I don't hear (just) that. I hear a complete Gb7,9,sus. You are missing the "E" in that chord, which is the 7th of the Gb7.
    Thanks for your ears and interest.
    I bow in your direction!
     
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  15. BobDeRosa

    BobDeRosa Supporting Member Commercial User

    May 16, 2012
    Penfield, NY
    Owner, Tritone Jazz Fantasy Camps
    I guess there's a place on TB for the "what color pick guard should I put on this bass," kind of discussion, but man, was it refreshing to see substance like this! Thanks, all, for your harmonic contributions, and thanks, Don, for having that one cup of coffee.
     
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  16. Whousedtoplay

    Whousedtoplay

    May 18, 2013
    TEXAS
    Don,
    Yes, you are correct. In the evening, my ears are getting dumb. This morning, I can clearly hear that E note.
    (Monday morning quarterback)

    If we add that E note, than we will have Emaj7 with F# in the bass = Emaj7/F#.

    Thank you for being passionate about music and thank you for your informative comments.

    No bows, please. :roflmao: :smug: drool

    Bow.
    2. A weapon consisting of a curved, flexible strip of material, especially wood, strung taut from end to end and used to launch arrows.
     
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  17. Whousedtoplay

    Whousedtoplay

    May 18, 2013
    TEXAS
    A simplified version of that song, more Pop-ish, with fewer strange "additives" to "normal" chords.:roflmao:

    Also, around 3:30 I've thought it was Stevie Wonder's song.;)

     
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  18. No comment other than it is a wonderful song and I love herbie. Thanks all!
     
  19. MD Stingray

    MD Stingray Guest

    Jan 17, 2008
    Great song - Definitively on my "to do" list. Thanks!
     

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