I used to have 2 Grind's,both 4 string and 5 string. Loved them both,but when I started using Cirrus 4's and 5's,I pretty much jumped ship and now use them almost exclusively. Don't get me wrong,I still got a lot of love for the grind's. They we're my first natural wood neck-thru's. Nevertheless,the My Cirrus's had effectively replaced them,and I sold them to up-and-comer's who would use them more than I was by that point.