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Hipster thing

And most hipsters (you can identify them by people who violently argue that they are actually not hipsters, despite their wide plastic rim glasses, chest tattoos, and tight women's jeans) are actually really cool people and fun to hang out with. My only beef is that I think their music is boooooring. "Theres still kind of a funky beat in that tune, layer some more guitars and bring down the drums!"
 
Yeah, I dunno about hipsters elsewhere, but they're shying away from PBR (too mainstream all of a sudden :eyebrow:) and I've never known a hipster to smoke Marlboro (more like Pall Mall or American Spirit)

But yeah, I'm pretty over it too. I blame Weezer.

Pittsburgh hipsters still love PBR. Not draft, has to be in a can, preferably pounder can.

I was about to edit my post and put Maverick in place of Marlboro, but didnt know if those are commonplace. Maverick's the dirt cheapest cig you can get around here.

I've literally gotten dirty looks when hanging out with my hipster friends when I ordered a whiskey coke and lit up a Camel. Oh well, I still think their pants are silly.
 
Alright now got my answer....Would you define this 'Hipster thing' as a sub culture or more of a fashion trend?
I have not seen any of these creatures lurking around in my parts....are they dangerous?
It seems as they would be native to my local......
Hmmmmmm
 
Oh, there are hipsters in SJ. Go to any martini bar and you'll find them.
And really, there have been hipsters for as long as there have been trends - there have always been people who are "too cool to follow a trend, because they were into *that* (whatever the trend is) way before it was cool".

BTW, love the cheeseburger joke.
 
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Guys like this. EDIT: Actually, this picture just doesn't do justice - these guys wouldn't fit in with the hipster crowd in my area.

Typically:

Shabby haircut, if cut at all. Many seem to have erased the words "comb" or "brush" from their vocabularies. Alternatively, many have opted lately (it seems) for the 50's side part (think George McFly) or "duck tail" style. For women, the trend seems to be bobs or shaved sides, especially if it can be made to look like someone hacked at it with a dull steak knife.

Facial hair: Not to bag on all facial hair, but growing it out without trimming, washing, or any other sort of grooming. Alternatively, there is a subset within the subset of over-manicured beards/mustaches hearkening back to the "lumberjack" era.

"Skinny jeans" which means pants legs that most probably can barely fit an ARM into, yet somehow they pour themselves into these jeans, which are also frequently "bagged" at the waist. You will see them sometimes holding the waistband up even though there is little threat of them actually falling below the hips. Also identifiable via brightly-colored metal stud belts, also frequently sporting chains.

Flannel or polyester shirts, typically button down or polo, typically dirty or otherwise "relic'd" and with the sleeves either rolled all the way down (but unbuttoned cuffs) or tight-rolled, if the sleeves haven't been cut off altogether.

Thermal long-sleeves regardless of weather conditions are a staple, as are vests and/or twill/tweed sport jackets. Also, ironic t-shirts from the 80's are highly looked upon, although the more "mainstream" cartoons and shows are less acceptable than the short-run, low-budget stuff.

Scarves are a must-have, the more garish the better, to a point. Plaid is the working word here.

Square-framed glasses, sometimes taped or glued (regardless of whether that is necessary to hold them together).

Beat up shoes, often with the long, pointy square toes or very beat up New Balance/otherwise not-popular and cheap tennis shoes. Bonus points for Velcro straps. Alternatively, "combat" boots with jeans tucked in sloppily, untied.

Ironic headgear - beanies with fuzzy things at the top, hats (not trucker hats) that express some childish or out-of-date sentiment. Fedoras and bowlers must be odd material and cannot match anything else you're wearing.

ANY cast-off Army surplus stuff, as long as it looks well-used, in many cases pipes or clove cigarettes, and political pins/safety pins holding stuff together. Duct tape also scores big bonus points. Anything checkered or otherwise gaudy patterns are a plus, as is wearing grandma's shawls or couch doilies. ANY "gauged" or oversized piercings, and tattoos on the neck/hands are extra special bonus points when combined with any of the above.

That's the fashion around here for the hipster crowd.

The mental attitude is one of complete apathy, anti-coolness. If you think something is cool, the hipster mentality is to either deride it and/or claim to have liked it/done it BEFORE it was cool. Music with any sort of production value (aside from being poorly recorded on a one-track in a bathroom/garage/garbage can) counts as "mainstream" and unworthy of attention. Books that aren't classics, philosophical (only if it's anarchistic/atheist/amoral) reading, and "underground" media is all that hasn't been "tainted by corporate America" and the only good movies are the ones you have to read or that don't have a real plot.

Anything commercial is bad, and making ANY sort of profit is evil. If they work (and many do, to be fair) it's typically in a tech job or low-paying entry-level job, or jobs that are typically understood to be held by the other gender - i.e. man working as hairdresser (not barber, and there is a difference) or woman working construction labor.

Did I miss anything?

EDIT 2: Oh, I forgot. By and large, in my experience, REAL hipsters believe Ron Paul will save the nation, if they can muster up enough energy to care about politics - which, surprisingly, they tend to take pretty seriously.
 
Alright, now i don't mean to be offensive but when is this hipster thing going to be over? I'm pretty sure it started at least 6 years ago, aren't we due for a new fashion? Any anthropologists here on talkbass?

Why not make up a new style yourself?

I am not an anthropologist but I do work in a related field so let me give this a shot. I feel like hipsterism is just sort of a pastiche of a lot of different things. For most of the recent past (say 50s or so) many subcultures were tied to musical styles. The thing about hipsters is they have no problem absorbing other musical styles. Sure there are certain bands that we can identify with hipsterism, but they also take in other forms of music (though not always adopting parts of those styles fashion). Many hipsters listen to metal, country, pop, dubstep, and brand new rap; because of this their culture is not tied to one particular musical genre which may become our of fashion.

All of this is not to say that their will not be an end to hipsterism, however if you look at their subculture more closely (and anthropologically) you will see that it has changed much over its history (I would place its genesis somewhere in the mid to late 90s only more recently it has experienced an explosion) but if you are not interested in the subculture (which there is no reason you should be unless you want to be) then any changes may not be noticeable.

As far as when something new will happen your guess is as good as mine. Right now I don't see any scenes forming that have a definitive enough style to replace the hipsters, but it will happen sooner or later (it always does).
 
I did not expect this kind of response lol. I agree hipsters may listen to many genres however I think of that bland indie rock where there are ambient guitars, a consistent quarter note drum beat and snobby soaring vocals relating to hipster issues. Yeah I'm totally bored with it haha but it's ok. Sadly, i also see a pop-punk scene that hasn't quite died yet (lord knows how) but hopefully it's on its way out. Man i am cynical :)
 
If your talking about baggy pants and sagging them down to the bottom of your @$$ I thought that looked died in the 90's, or at least it did for me. Perhaps because I am older now I prefer to wear clothes to my size and not three sizes bigger, however I must also say I don't care much for the "skinny jeans and tight shirt look" of today.