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Hofner-(not just Beatle Basses)-Group Part 2

Yeah, Pyramids have green silks, and they're what Hofner puts on their German-made basses.

Oh, and more items to add to the earlier list of distinguishing features: the bridge, the angled neck (with space between it and the top of the body), the tailpiece (specifically the string anchor portion), the truss rod cover, and the output jack. In short, almost everything!

If you look at photos of an Ignition, you'll see how all these things compare.

Most of the things that distinguish it as a German-made (except the Made in Germany sticker, switches, knobs, tuners, and strap attachment--which may be unique to the Sullivan model) are present on the Contemporary models, too; a likely reason for the center block in CT basses is to prevent them from being passed off as German-made, since those are fully hollow. But at a glance, CTs look a lot like Germans; Ignitions don't look much like either on close inspection.

Anyway, it's a lovely bass! As is your 70s one. How would you describe the difference in sound?

Thanks...

First, I know some will say that the ignition series is just as good as the German made Basses or more accurately that the German made Basses aren't worth the extra. This all started because I bought an Ignition. It isn't even close. I returned the Ignition today.

As far as tone goes... the 70s is very mellow and warm. The Sullivan Show bass is still warm, but with a bit more growl. It is really hard to put either one down.

I'm actually surprised I bought one, but to have 2 this nice is really a surprise.
 
?..Pyramids have green silks...

I think both of these have pyramids on them, which is not surprising. I originally mistook the ones on the 70 for La Bella's. They are a bit smoother and have the green silks. I've had a few sets of those with green silks, but never the Beatle bass strings. If memory serves, they were blue.

I have no plans to replace these strings, but I do like to have a backup set ready to go. Online sources are limited, so if I choose the short scale set of Pyramid Golds, will they fit the pegs on my Hofner's or is there a special set for them?
 
FretNation.com would be a good place to get answers/strings.

As far as I'm aware, short scale Pyramids are technically medium scale in order to accommodate the distance between the bridge and the tailpiece.

I looked at FretNation.com and didn't see the strings listed, so I didn't think they would sell them. Perhaps @SLaPiNFuNK will answer here. Isn't it about the diameter of the silk end as well?
 
FretNation.com would be a good place to get answers/strings.

As far as I'm aware, short scale Pyramids are technically medium scale in order to accommodate the distance between the bridge and the tailpiece.
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As has been discussed earlier, there is a grey area in scale length choices when most Hofner basses are involved.

Case in point :

Yesterday, I installed a set of short scale LaBella Low Tension Flats (42-56-75-100) onto my Ignition Club bass, and the wound portion cleared the nut by about 1/4".

These are NOT specifically designated for any Hofner basses, but seem to fit mine.

Exactly 32" of winding (as some SS strings still are) would have been too short though.

LaBella publishes on their website that the wound portion of their short scale flats (in general) is 32.25", and I took a chance on these ones after measuring the required distance on my bass.

It worked out fine, so I suggest that a person with a German or Contemporary edition Hofner should measure too, and IIRC, a Club and a Violin bass of a certain series should share the same string measurements, correct ?

However, I need to point out that for these strings, LaBella is using the same package sleeve insert cardboard as for their long scale version of them, so the tension figures mentioned on it are way too high, compared to what is really happening (and the same issue plagues their website page for these otherwise nice looking and feeling strings).

They only add a sticker to the sleeve to say short (or medium) scale, and the incorrect long scale info is therefive still shown.

BTW, at a published 34.25" of winding, LaBella MEDIUM scale strings would be slightly too long for my bass at the E 4th peg, and prob'ly for most other Hofners too.

I only decided this after measuring my bass, and was prior to that considering ordering medium scale LaBellas.

LaBella says that their Beatle Bass sets are 34 inches [even] of winding, which would have been OK for me, except that I do not like the only two choices of gauges in which those come.

The strings which I removed were DR short/medium scale rounds, which have about 33.50 or 33.75 inches of winding.

They fit fine, but of course are round wound, and over several gigs with them, reminded me of some of the reasons that I had abandoned rounds in favour of half round or ground round wounds on my Ric, back during the 80s.
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Anyone know what happened to the hofner "Gold" series? I remember seeing a bunch of them in a ton of cool colors and now they're nowhere to be seen. Don't even see any used ones.

Anyone own one Of these?
I think this was a Gold Series: Madrone Burl
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For nearly fours years I had been looking for a very particular bass: 1973 Hofner G500/1B Super Beatle Bass distributed in North America by Sorkin. Alas, only one ever showed up for sale and it was gone before I could raise the rather significant funds. So I decided to build a "POOR MANS" Hofner 5000/1 out of a totally unfinished Ignition kit I found on Ebay (Chinese seller) for $171.00 USD. Since I had no tools, no idea of what to do and zero experience, it took about 5 months and 100 YouTube videos to finish. Much to my surprise and delight, the guitar is a dream to play and sounds killer! I use it primarily in a "British Invasion" band and it just fits perfectly into the sound palette we are trying to present. It is amazing what you can do when you are toooo dumb to know that you can't do it!

Front:
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Rear:
ES 5000:1 Back.jpeg


Although I have German and HCT series Hofners in my collection, even with all her warts, this one holds a very special place!

BTW: I do have some news about the G500/1 quest if anyone is interested!
 
For nearly fours years I had been looking for a very particular bass: 1973 Hofner G500/1B Super Beatle Bass distributed in North America by Sorkin. Alas, only one ever showed up for sale and it was gone before I could raise the rather significant funds. So I decided to build a "POOR MANS" Hofner 5000/1 out of a totally unfinished Ignition kit I found on Ebay (Chinese seller) for $171.00 USD. Since I had no tools, no idea of what to do and zero experience, it took about 5 months and 100 YouTube videos to finish. Much to my surprise and delight, the guitar is a dream to play and sounds killer! I use it primarily in a "British Invasion" band and it just fits perfectly into the sound palette we are trying to present. It is amazing what you can do when you are toooo dumb to know that you can't do it!

Front:
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Rear:
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Although I have German and HCT series Hofners in my collection, even with all her warts, this one holds a very special place!

BTW: I do have some news about the G500/1 quest if anyone is interested!
Do tell.
 
Have just heard that the Ignition has different string spacing to the German Hofner, always thought the spacing was the same, does anyone know if the CT Contemporary series also has different string spacing to the German Hofners or is it the same?
 
Have just heard that the Ignition has different string spacing to the German Hofner, always thought the spacing was the same, does anyone know if the CT Contemporary series also has different string spacing to the German Hofners or is it the same?
Different models of Hofners have different neck profiles, which can then have a impact of string spacing. So there is no single German neck profiles, and the Ignitions may vary too. Check the Hofner website for details about neck profiles.
 

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