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Double Bass How fragile is a carved bass really?

Did most of those guys in the 50s who strapped their basses to to the roofs of Oldsmobiles use plywood basses? They had to be exposed to ridiculous amounts of exposure to the elements. Did cheap uprights hold up better than carved examples?
Lots of Kays in those days. I owned a 1941 Blonde Kay 5 string. It predated the models called the “Chubby Jackson” model. The bass was purchased from a guy in my town who purchased it in a local music store when he worked there. The bass often traveled on the roof of a Packard with the bass drum.
 
I’ve notoriously played all my basses in extreme festival setting including my 1850’s Tewksbury (this here is a factory German). I’ve had good luck in general. I think I’ve broken every rule stated here but I’ve come out all right. Be careful and keep your endpin long enough to keep it above the mud!
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I’ve notoriously played all my basses in extreme festival setting including my 1850’s Tewksbury (this here is a factory German). I’ve had good luck in general. I think I’ve broken every rule stated here but I’ve come out all right. Be careful and keep your endpin long enough to keep it above the mud!
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Not really more fragile; more sensitive to fluctuations in humidity, definitely, but the issue is more that a carved bass is more expensive than one made of plywood. And you're 100% gonna run into stuff with it.
Not more fragile? Solid wood is more likely to crack on impact.
 
A new, factory made bass like that is going to be fine in those conditions. An older instrument with a lot of repairs is going to be much more fragile.
Like others have said, if you are OK, the bass is probably fine, too. So, thee potential for damage is more likely in poorly thought out storage ideas. Make sure the bass is in a cooler place when you are not playing it.
 
Plywood is strong and long lasting, but cracked or de-laminated plywood is generally harder to repair than cracked solid wood, at least on a double bass.
Only if your shop is not setup for the needs of lamated basses. If you are, it is easy peasy; predictably reliable and they have different end goals.
 
Depending on a number of factors, a carved bass can be very fragile. Of course, based on many other factors- a carved bass is very robust. I play many outdoor gigs in the sun right next to lakes (Great or otherwise) in the summer and will use my laminates in these conditions. My hundred years old or so Czech flatback is reserved for comfy gigs per my luthier's recommendation. Your mileage may differ.
 
Indeed, when I took responsibility for a cheap-bass-with-issues, it was with the expectation that I was going to be my own luthier. No luthier in my area would even touch it. As luck would have it, when I finally got it back together, it held up for a good 20 years before I finally gave it away to someone whose daughter was interested in bass.
 
When I lived in San Diego, I was renting a small cottage in Valley Center and left my bass when there was a heat wave and I was out of town for work, the AC stopped and was not reset, Infernal temps in the cottage and the top slid off the bass. Well it gave an opportunity for the Luthier to fix issues and frankly the bass sounded better. She also told me that she charged me less because the heat already did the ungluing for her. I think it was 2-3 hours of labor saced :D It is a loud bass considering it is 1/2 or 5/8's . I also found out. It is an old bass, Over 100 years old. I still don't baby it. 1/2 and no name is not really appealing to most bass players.

. I forgot the place in Oyster Bay Long island NY, but I took my first DB there/ The luthier whose name I can't remember, was able to put back a bass for a customer that was in a car wreck. - it was in many pieces when it came to the shop

Don't worry about it. Common sense. All my carved upright always sound better with cracks. But don't intentionally do it. The wood will do it on it's own if really needed. Play it every day , play it for people . Otherwise it will be just like a dull sounding piece of furniture.
Kolstein? Was this a Prescott once played by Scott LaFaro?