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How loud can you go?

#41
DogBone said:
75 decibels in my city, with proposals as radical as 55 decibels. :spit:

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It's usually only "enforced" selectively though. Politics plays a HUGE part.
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Woah! That's my home city! The noise ordinance / anti-music thing here is getting out of hand. They forced one decent music club out of business, and forced a couple of other places to stop having amplified music at all.

Funny, they can still run the stereo plenty loud though. :scowl:
 
#43
Insanity. A vacuum cleaner is louder.

OSHA reference:
OSHA sets legal limits on noise exposure in the workplace. These limits are based on a worker's time weighted average over an 8 hour day. With noise, OSHA's permissible exposure limit (PEL) is 90 dBA for all workers for an 8 hour day. The OSHA standard uses a 5 dBA exchange rate. This means that when the noise level is increased by 5 dBA, the amount of time a person can be exposed to a certain noise level to receive the same dose is cut in half.
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http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/noisehearingconservation/

NOT STARTING A POLITICS DISCUSSION but....
I'm thinking the new dwelling owner(s) are better politically-connected than the club owner(s).
Seen similar selective laws and enforcement during my life in more than one city.
 
#44
Reading the article it said they measured above 62dB from the apartment across the street. I'm certain you could be quite a bit louder than that inside a venue and not get into any trouble. But the music was on the back patio and you could hear it across the street at 62dB. Which is pretty quiet.

And c'mon... passing cars are making half that noise too. Dogs barking. Can you really blame "all the noise" on the band across the street in a downtown area? Not where I live. We're just part of the din.
 
#46
HolmeBass said:
Woah! That's my home city! The noise ordinance / anti-music thing here is getting out of hand. They forced one decent music club out of business, and forced a couple of other places to stop having amplified music at all.

Funny, they can still run the stereo plenty loud though. :scowl:
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I'd have Slipknot, Machine Head, Lamb Of God, and Slayer running 24/7 through the patio speakers until they melt. Then, I'd buy better speakers and continue on.
 
#48
Humphrey’s has long been known to feature live music on their patio, leading some to ask—why now? The answer is, people have not lived across the street from the bar, until recently. The Belk Hudson Lofts opened about 3 weeks ago and since that time a few residents have complained.

“The measurement was 70 decibels on the roof of the lofts across the street," said Shea.
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1. 1st Amendment?
2. The club is in a business zone. So they should be able to make noise until 9-10 PM - then they gotta clear the deck.
3. The complainants didn't notice the rock club across the street?
4. The club was there first and probably pays more in taxes.
 
#55
I'm just curious...if the power goes out on stage, and the band is just standing there, but the audience members all start talking and ordering drinks, if the spl goes above 62dB, does the band get fined?
 
#56
One of the Cities in NJ we play in has a City Code 327-5
sound shall not equal or exceed 80 decibels at all times.
and if you do you get a serious kick in the a@@ I know a band that got fine $2500.00 when the NOISE CONTROL OFFICER wrote them a ticket on the spot!

Any person who violates any provision of this chapter shall be subject to a civil penalty for each offense of not more than $3,000. If the violation is of a continuing nature, each day during which it occurs shall constitute an additional, separate and distinct offense.
 
#57
I went to a Queensryche/Dream Theater show in downtown Pittsburgh a few years ago.
It was in an outdoor covered venue right by the river, and near the Hard Rock.
Im sure any locals know where Im talking about.

The sound guy had a sign on the back of the riser he was on announcing the City Ordinance regarding sound level.
I think people were about ready to start throwing things at him.
I thought he was running the stage monitors for FOH.

It was terrrible.

This after having driven hours from central West Virginia.

Charleston has an outdoor stage on the Levee.
You can get your ears peeled by top quality talent for free on Fridays during the summer.

West By God- It Ain't All Bad!!
 
#58
rtslinger said:
One of the Cities in NJ we play in has a City Code 327-5
sound shall not equal or exceed 80 decibels at all times.
and if you do you get a serious kick in the a@@ I know a band that got fine $2500.00 when the NOISE CONTROL OFFICER wrote them a ticket on the spot!

Any person who violates any provision of this chapter shall be subject to a civil penalty for each offense of not more than $3,000. If the violation is of a continuing nature, each day during which it occurs shall constitute an additional, separate and distinct offense.
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I think 80 DB at the property line is more than fair. You shouldn't be able to stand at the front door and hear 80 DB I would think.
 
#59
DwaynieAD said:
osha was just in our warehouse today, we're good as long as it doesnt hit 115db. let me say that again.. OSHA is fine up to 115 DB!
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They have to be. Otherwise 75% of all union jobs would be banned and the economy would grind to a halt.

I think some of the more stringent limits with no basis in medical fact and no parity with restrictions for non-musical sounds risk violating the first amendment. Volume and power are part of the expression. While safety is important and creating a nuisance infringes upon others, there needs to be a reasonable opportunity for expression that satisfies everyone. Unreasonable limits reflect a disapproval of the expression and that is not acceptable.
 
#60
funnyfingers said:
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I think 80 DB at the property line is more than fair. You shouldn't be able to stand at the front door and hear 80 DB I would think.
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76 inside the place is as high as you are allowed we have a sound meter and we get the crowd reading first and minus that from our level to keep in under 80 db which in city code includes 3 ft from the person in violation They have people who just go around and check the places if they can hear the music outside from 50 ft away in any direction they are coming in and Bass travels so you know they are coming in no doubt
 

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