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Shoplifting is built into the business model.I'm going to buck the trend here.
I don't see any issues with returns within policy for good faith purchases.
Egregiously exploiting a return policy is indeed super cheezy and uncool. But businesses know what they are doing, and they are not obtuse to the abuse. It's built into their business model.
What bass is it? You can PM me if you prefer.Since returning to bass playing in 2002 after a 17 year hiatus, I've only returned one bass. It was a boutique bass by a builder who no longer builds. It was purchased from a well-known and 'reputable' store in the USA. The photo on the website was of the bass when it was brand new. When I got it it had numerous minor scuffs and marks. I liked the bass enough that my plans were to keep it, in spite of it not being minty fresh as represented.
After closer inspection I noticed the neck was 'curved'. Not twisted, but curved. Imagine a long railroad car sitting on a curved section of track. Looking down from above the railroad car represents the bass strings, the tracks represent the neck. The neck curved underneath the strings. As I recall, on the treble side the G string was much closer to the edge of the fingerboard at the 10-12th fret than it was at the nut and 24th fret.
The day after receiving the bass I called the shop. The owner basically told me I was seeing things. I wasn't. I had to pay shipping back to the store (no surprise), plus he wanted to charge me a restocking fee. We argued over that, but he finally relented and agreed to refund the restocking fee. He told me that he would never do business with me again. I was several steps ahead of him on that sentiment.
I knew he would post the bass for sale as soon as he got it back. He did. Sadly, it eventually ended up with a Talkbass member. He sold it in the classifieds here. It caused a major falling out between the two TB members when the buyer discovered the same problem I had observed. This story makes me sad. I still think about how much that bass spoke to me in feel and tone.
M. M.
I recently bought a brand new Sterling short scale bass and its a great bass but I just don't think its worth the price. It was an impulse buy and I've hardly touched it.
I'd like to return it just based on price. However, I feel kind of guilty. This is the 2nd bass I'm returning this year so far. For clothes, I buy and return all the time and don't feel a thing but for some reason I'm conflicted. I also don't want to be labeled a bad customer since I'm a regular there.
Any thoughts on this? How often do you return basses?
Strange that so many posters are wearing a badge of honor of their refusal to return a bass.
Today's meta of bass selling denies the customer the opportunity to try a bass, and this results in not being as sure about it as if you were to buy a bass in person. But mostly, I don't see anyone here talking about all the benefits given to the seller. No retail sales people to pay or rent for a store, less taxes, etc... Nortstrand sets up his Acinonyx basses at his home for example. Why should the consumer get shafted while it's primarily the seller that benefits from this sales model?
I'm not suggesting that anyone should abuse return policies to arbitrarily try basses for fun. The OP went in with a good intention, and he changed his mind. He shouldn't have to feel any guilt about returning it because it costs the seller return shipping.
Don't kid yourselves, the sellers are doing just fine.
Shoplifting is built into the business model.
Ya, it's no badge of honor. I'd have returned them if I didn't like them or felt I otherwise got ripped off. But I knew what I was buying, I can set up almost any bass to play dreamy, and with some of them I just plain didn't expect much out of themI don't think it's a badge of honor. More like, I can't understand not doing some research and not buying on a whim. With PayPal's return period, not sure I really want to sell anything larger than a pedal on TB if half the membership is so fickle.
I don't think it's a badge of honor. More like, I can't understand not doing some research and not buying on a whim. With PayPal's return period, not sure I really want to sell anything larger than a pedal on TB if half the membership is so fickle.
This is true. But if that happens, I give it as good a setup as I possibly can, and it's always changed my mind about basses I didn't like.Without the instrument in hand, anything goes. Research only takes you so far. What if you get it and it just doesn't feel good? No amount of research can prevent that, but I'm still going to return it even though it is not defective.