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How many cops does it take to stop a car? 23

That's "dorrar".
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It's a stretch for me to think that the cops see you, want to just check you "for warrants", fabricate a stop to do this, then send you on your way. Repeatedly. Right.......

Are you asserting this DOESN'T happen?

...because I've had a number of police officers (including my uncle, a high school friend, and a neighbor) tell me it happens ALL the time. Three different cops, three different states (South Carolina, Nevada, Michigan), three different levels of policing (State Patrol, city police, county sheriff).

Never mind things like NYC's "Stop and Frisk" policy.
 
You'll never hear me say that every cop in the world walks on water and should be free to violate constitutional rights. I think that the ones who cross that line should be punished, because they make the job harder for the rest of us, all while making us all look bad. I'm in favor of in-car cameras and audio, as are my co-workers. And no matter how applicants are screened, and how much schooling is required, some idiots will still make it under the radar.

They always will - which is why it is imperative that police officers hold their own to a higher standard than they hold the general public. It's also why any cop caught covering up a crime should receive a penalty at least equivalent to committing the crime, and be summarily dismissed.

There's also the effects of PTSD that is often overlooked. It is real, and it can make the best, most professional cop fall. There's also statistics to back that up, too, if you bother to look.


It is real, and it's horrible that it happens - but if it happens and the officer can't perform his duties, he needs to be removed from the job. PTSD may be a reason, but it isn't an excuse.
 
They always will - which is why it is imperative that police officers hold their own to a higher standard than they hold the general public. It's also why any cop caught covering up a crime should receive a penalty at least equivalent to committing the crime, and be summarily dismissed.
Agreed. As far as PTSD, one big problem is cops refusing to acknowledge it, because they worry that they'll be fired for admitting it and seeking treatment. Like you said, it isn't an excuse, but it is a reality.

On another note, I sincerely thank you for your input. You've brought a fairly moderate view to the table. I saw you quoted one of my posts a few days ago and somehow missed it. My bad!
 
Damned if you do...Damned if you don't. That's the motto of law enforcement

I actually had a woman who, after being beat up by her boyfriend, told me she didn't expect me to actually do anything about it because the last time he beat her up the police didn't arrest him or do anything about it. She was pretty upset about it and thought the police were pretty useless.

So I asked her when she reported it to see who took the report and see what was done...

She didn't call the police and never reported it.

She thought the cops were useless and lazy because we never arrested her boyfriend or do anything with him for an assault she NEVER TOLD THE POLICE ABOUT.

That's the mentality of too many people in this world...
 
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