How many cops does it take to stop a car? 23

[nukes_da_bass]

Poor armed and dangerous criminal.
Poor poor armed and dangerous criminal.
Tisk.

 

[ZenG]

I saw a video a couple of years back where they shot up and killed this guy in a pickup truck.

They were firing at him from just about all angles it looked like......

They made swiss cheese out of him..........no problem...........

It looked like they could have easily injured one of their own..........

My alltime favorite...The Bank Of America Shootout.........I could watch that over and over......

 

[will33]

Obviously, cop life has higher value than regular people life, so, when a cop gets shot, it's completely acceptable to make the move from group of public servants to assasination squad.

I mean, come on, don't y'all get this? They're so much holier than the rest of us, it's cool if they totally go beserk, have way more angles of fire and loads of lead than could possibly be managable, end up hitting innocent bystanders houses, as well as each other. After all, they finally got that ! (#*4&$$\ cop killer, didn't they.

Wouldn't have made any sense at all to just excersize some patience and a few smarts, avoid all that mayhem, and just get the guy, free of incident, while he's passed out at his buddies house, would it?

No, can't do that. Wouldn't make near as much of a hoo-rah photo-op would it? Might not even make the news.


Yes, I realize the link in the OP is incredibly biased.

Yes, I realize these were bad dudes that needed to be taken down.

I also realize the difference between responsible enforcement and propagandizing the public in an effort to make ones virtue seem greater than his vice.

These guys were non-life respecting criminals. They spent way too many bullets on them, when just a few, or even a single one, fired from something held by a sane mind would've taken care of it.

Being criminals also means they are inherently stupid. Stupid people are easy to take advantage of and/or control. No need for some sorority house, redneck dogpile like this.



Yes....sorority.

 

[Unrepresented]

Obviously, cop life has higher value than regular people life, so, when a cop gets shot, it's completely acceptable to make the move from group of public servants to assasination squad.

I mean, come on, don't y'all get this? They're so much holier than the rest of us, it's cool if they totally go beserk, have way more angles of fire and loads of lead than could possibly be managable, end up hitting innocent bystanders houses, as well as each other. After all, they finally got that ! (#*4&$$\ cop killer, didn't they.

Killing a cop is automatically a first degree murder with no option for a second degree. The rest of us literally are worth less than a cop in the eyes of the law.

 

[machine gewehr]

Yes, I realize the link in the OP is incredibly biased.

Yes, I realize these were bad dudes that needed to be taken down.

The article says the passenger was not a criminal, but a man with bad friend choice.

Killing a cop is automatically a first degree murder with no option for a second degree. The rest of us literally are worth less than a cop in the eyes of the law.

It's like that in Turkey too. Punch a power crazed cop because he's being abusive, breaking your legs for no reason at all, you're done for.

A cop fires a gas granade on an 11 year old boy and hits him in the head ending up killing him, they launch a gas granade barrage on protestors and smack their heads with batons and what so ever.

It got to the point that if a cop kills some one, victim's families are taken to court. I change my way when I see a cop unless they saw me.

There are good ones out there too though, I met some of them.

 

[Munjibunga]

Ooooh...a cop bashing thread.

Haven't had one of these in a while.

FTR, I like cops.

 

[Munjibunga]

For all you cop bashers, did you ever consider that there are millions of interactions between cops and citizens every day, and the vast majority of them are for the public benefit, whether it's recovering a kidnapped child or rescuing a driver from a roll-over accident? ... or getting a drunk driver off the street or taking a wife-beater to jail? So if you heard about one bad cop event every day in the news, that would still only be representative of less than one one-millionth of the interactions. Cops have to deal with very stressful, sometimes life-ending, situations and the worst of scumbags every day as part of their job. How would you like to do your job under those conditions?

Yes there are bad cops - they're the ones you use to paint them all with the same brush. The punishment for criminal cops should be more severe that that of "ordinary" criminals. But 99 percent of cops do a good job and actually want to help the public. The other one percent should be in jail.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, cop haters are a category of people with whom I want to have no association. I doubt there are many criminals who like cops.

 

[Jim Campbell]

For all you cop bashers, did you ever consider that there are millions of interactions between cops and citizens every day, and the vast majority of them are for the public benefit, whether it's recovering a kidnapped child or rescuing a driver from a roll-over accident? ... or getting a drunk driver off the street or taking a wife-beater to jail? So if you heard about one bad cop event every day in the news, that would still only be representative of less than one one-millionth of the interactions. Cops have to deal with very stressful, sometimes life-ending, situations and the worst of scumbags every day as part of their job. How would you like to do your job under those conditions?

Yes there are bad cops - they're the ones you use to paint them all with the same brush. The punishment for criminal cops should be more severe that that of "ordinary" criminals. But 99 percent of cops do a good job and actually want to help the public. The other one percent should be in jail.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, cop haters are a category of people with whom I want to have no association. I doubt there are many criminals who like cops.

a tad rose colored glasses i'd say.....we pay them...they don't do it for nothing....and because we do we have,or should have a reasonable expectation of professionalism.....no one ever forced a cop into the job at gun point..they seek the job , it does not involve a draft card lottery or press gang.....has nothing to do with hating cops....it has to do with paying people to do a job and receiving value for the paycheck....

we know it's difficult....that's why we screen them,train them and provide support and equipment.....and in some places laws that are specifically designed to protect them in the performance of their duties.....but like any job people get lazy and some ignore procedure and take short cuts....i can't recall who said it,but "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance" is what should define the relationship between the cops and citizenry........because of the gravity of the job they perform it is especially important to hold them to the highest standard....call it hate if you like...and for the record i don't hate cops,tho' i've been accused of it by some here who have forgotten that....

 

[Munjibunga]

...it has to do with paying people to do a job and receiving value for the paycheck.

... and I happen to believe we get that value.

 

[Jim Campbell]

... and I happen to believe we get that value.

i don't doubt you believe that....

 

[machine gewehr]

Yes there are bad cops - they're the ones you use to paint them all with the same brush. The punishment for criminal cops should be more severe that that of "ordinary" criminals. But 99 percent of cops do a good job and actually want to help the public. The other one percent should be in jail.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, cop haters are a category of people with whom I want to have no association. I doubt there are many criminals who like cops.

In Turkey, being a cop is like a joker job. If people can't find any other jobs, they become cops or soldiers. So, most of those people I've known, being served in military, hate their jobs. But most of them are good people. But when they come together in a protest event, I guess this phenomenon is called "Bandwagoon Effect", correct me if I'm wrong, they become one giant monster. (Protestor too I guess).

With their gas masks on, being incognito, they do stuff they normally wouldn't do. This is scary, because at some point some of them becomes blood crazed. Blood crazed + weapons = murder. This goes for both sides, both protestors and cops died, infact non should have died. They're all people. But cops push people so far that protestors lose it too.

I looked at the other side too. They interviewed some cops during long protest events and they're just people who want to go back to their families safe and sound. This, without their masks on.

 

[nukes_da_bass]

Who wants cookies?

 

[BawanaRik]

Isn't that where Dexter worked?

 

[BawanaRik]

In Turkey, being a cop is like a joker job. If people can't find any other jobs, they become cops or soldiers. So, most of those people I've known, being served in military, hate their jobs. But most of them are good people. But when they come together in a protest event, I guess this phenomenon is called "Bandwagoon Effect", correct me if I'm wrong, they become one giant monster. (Protestor too I guess).

With their gas masks on, being incognito, they do stuff they normally wouldn't do. This is scary, because at some point some of them becomes blood crazed. Blood crazed + weapons = murder. This goes for both sides, both protestors and cops died, infact non should have died. They're all people. But cops push people so far that protestors lose it too.

I looked at the other side too. They interviewed some cops during long protest events and they're just people who want to go back to their families safe and sound. This, without their masks on.

Is there a word for what happens when people "side up"? Ie where two groups of what was (were) normal people become separate groups out to cause harm to the "other"?

Is there a study of the dynamics of events like this? What is the study called? Is there a TB member who works in this field and would be able to talk about it. Maybe bring us up to speed with the lexicon and current theory?

 

[BawanaRik]

Who wants cookies?

I do but I'm not supposed to eat them anymore.

 

[machine gewehr]

Is there a word for what happens when people "side up"? Ie where two groups of what was (were) normal people become separate groups out to cause harm to the "other"?

Is there a study of the dynamics of events like this? What is the study called? Is there a TB member who works in this field and would be able to talk about it. Maybe bring us up to speed with the lexicon and current theory?

I'm curious too. Whe people side up, in a crowd, they do things they normally wouldn't to by themselves. I know this phenomenon has a word for it but can't remember it now.

 

[BawanaRik]

I'm curious too. Whe people side up, in a crowd, they do things they normally wouldn't to by themselves. I know this phenomenon has a word for it but can't remember it now.

I think some riots happen due to that kind of link.

Humans like to feel superior to anything else. There are times when I doubt the validity of that claim.

 

[BawanaRik]

FTR, I like cops.

I try to judge people as individuals. When grouping them together on a single "parameter" I find that maybe isn't the best of ideas.

 

[Darth Handsome]

I try to judge people as individuals. When grouping them together on a single "parameter" I find that maybe isn't the best of ideas.

I try to judge people too. I deem they're all jerks.

 

[DwaynieAD]

For all you cop bashers, did you ever consider that there are millions of interactions between cops and citizens every day, and the vast majority of them are for the public benefit, whether it's recovering a kidnapped child or rescuing a driver from a roll-over accident? ... or getting a drunk driver off the street or taking a wife-beater to jail? So if you heard about one bad cop event every day in the news, that would still only be representative of less than one one-millionth of the interactions. Cops have to deal with very stressful, sometimes life-ending, situations and the worst of scumbags every day as part of their job. How would you like to do your job under those conditions?

Yes there are bad cops - they're the ones you use to paint them all with the same brush. The punishment for criminal cops should be more severe that that of "ordinary" criminals. But 99 percent of cops do a good job and actually want to help the public. The other one percent should be in jail.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, cop haters are a category of people with whom I want to have no association. I doubt there are many criminals who like cops.

making sense is not appreciated in cop bashing threads.