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How many frets do *you* need on your 4-string?

How many frets on a 4-string does your playing require?

  • 24+

    Votes: 96 15.1%
  • 22-23

    Votes: 41 6.5%
  • 20-21

    Votes: 255 40.2%
  • 15 would be more than enough, tbh

    Votes: 194 30.6%
  • Fretless carrots

    Votes: 35 5.5%
  • Tortoiseshell 5- or 6-string

    Votes: 14 2.2%

  • Total voters
    635
I play basic Gospel and Country/rock often and I can't remember the last time I ventured past the 15th fret on a Sunday morning or a gig. I'm not someone who stays just in first position but I'm not even sure of the last time I hit the 13th or 14th. I often make the old joke that there's not much money to be made past the 12th fret.

I think I started a thread some years back back considering whether a 17'ish fret neck would be a viable way for most players to play a long scale LP or true-Tele shaped instrument without neck dive.
 
I’ve had a couple 24 fretters, and liked them - not because I play up there, but because it forces more cutaway on the lower side - less wood in the body; hence lower weight.

That aside, 15 is probably plenty.

If only that were true! So many 24 fret basses have no additional thought given to the cutaway or the neck heel. Some like Spector make it so you basically have to go thumb position to play the 24th fret :D
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Just before seeing this poll I was noodling with drony chords on my 24 frets 6er. I was a little short and wish I had 26. My current main bass is a 6er tuned ADGCFA#. That means a range from A0 to A#4. I wish I got that kind of beast sooner, so many possibilities and awesome sounds... If you're in the mood for ambient stuff, it's a dream machine! I wouldn't mind rocking the s*** out of a 15-fret 3-string bass though.
 
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I owned a really wonderful bass that had a full two-octave, 24 fret fretboard. When I had it, I did find myself using the whole range of the instrument. Now I have a bass with 21 frets and another with 20. I wouldn’t mind having another extended range instrument, maybe a 24-26 fret, 5 or 6 string bass with a high C, but it’s not really a priority for me. I don’t find myself missing that little bit of extra range very much and I prefer the tone and feel of basses in the 20-21 fret range when slapping.
 
21 is nice because if the high E adding a nice symmetry, and the fact is that guitar-based music is often composed in E and A, with the high E being a chord tone. 24 is nice again because of the symmetry of a second octave per string. 21 and 24 are my favorite layouts. 21 keeps the traditional body cut but adds that common chord tone, and 24 dispenses with the traditional body shape and gets you the second octave.
 
Tips:

- Learn to play all scales up to the highest frets to get familiar with that register of your bass.

- Learn to play all bass lines up an octave & above the 12th fret. You’ll quickly become comfortable in that part of the neck.

- Learn to jump up 12 frets and down again during any bassline. (Similar to a pianist moving up/down an octave).



I use all 20 frets on my P bass at every gig - mostly double stops and cool fills.

I have 24 frets on my 5 string but rarely go past 21st fret (due to ergonomics).

So I have to wonder - how many of you might spend more time in the upper registers if it were easier to play up there?
Re: my post above....

My 5 string is a neck-through bass with 24 frets. It has amazing access to the upper register. I really had to work hard to get to know that part of the neck because of the limitated access of my Jazz Bass with bolt-on neck.

I practised the tips I mentioned above to get comfortable in the upper register. Helped enormously.

However, wrist angle when standing combined with jumbo frets make it hard to play well in that register past the 21st fret. I only play the 22-24th frets on the G string.
 
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I counted 19 on my (now fretless) Fender Mustang. The only problem was when the jazz band played "Liberty City." Other than that, since jazz is improvisational, there are always more than one wrong note that I can play.

Just extend the fingerboard and learn thumb position. ;)
 

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