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How many really believe.

My understanding is that AlNiCo pickup slugs gradually lose their magnetism over time, whereas ceramic slugs do not. So the pickups in old vintage guitars from the '50s and early '60s have become a little weaker. That gradual weakening can be heard as a "mellow" or "sweet" tone which is coveted by guitar players. By contrast ceramic pickups can sound brighter and louder, which can be heard as a "harsh" tone.

Of course as others have noted the magnetic slugs are only one part of the equation, and a talented designer can make a great sounding pickup using many different types of materials.
 
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Like @Christiaan said, it depends.

DiMarzio Area/Model J are ceramic, not my taste for a jazz bass. Peavey's Foundation was their take on the Jazz bass, I'm not keen on the early models using C-8 ceramic magnets, much prefer the later with weaker C-5 magnets.

Personal taste for JB is alnico,flats,tone rolled back.
When did the switch happen w/ the super ferrites? I have a 92 foundation that sounds pretty dang good to my ears.
 
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I don't even know what kind of magnets are in any of my basses.
Same here. I’ve been through a lot of aftermarket J pickups and I never chose based on magnet type. I let my ears decide what I like. After all that I’ve got an MIM J with Dimarzio Model J and another one with Dimarzio Ultra J, a couple Highway One (1?) j basses with whatever Fender loaded them with, and an old Jazz Plus with Lace sensors in it, also what Fender loaded it with. I’ve also got an Ibanez Jet King with original pickups. I’m not in love with its output but I got the thing to load with a couple of steel guitar pickups and a bunch of switches, but life came along and derailed that little tangent so it’s still as it was birthed.
 
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So, by chance I got a set of the Delano JMVC pickups, which have large ceramic slugs. Those went into the RV4 and off to rehearsal. Midway through the first tune, the Band Leader stopped all 25 musicians, looked at me in the back, and asked me what the heck I had done to make the bass sound so absolutely amazing. I was floored.
+1 on the Delano Ceramics. I installed the PJ's and received nothing but compliments on their sound. :thumbsup:

If you put all types of pickups in a row in front of me, I am not able to say which ones are made of which material.
What I can do is decide for myself, which ones sound best.
 
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I want to know cheap are expensive, when it comes to jazz bass pickups do you really believe Alnico is better than Ceramic pickups. Be honest and give an honest opinion
I prefer the sound of Alnico pickups with nickel wound strings, thats just what my ears like. Better is very relative…is it better to drive a less powerful, but more fuel efficient car, or to drive a car with more horsepower that is less fuel efficient? All a matter of perspective.
 
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When did the switch happen w/ the super ferrites?
1996, you'll see Foundations from that time wrongly listed as having " passive VFL" pickups.

They're not "VFL" but a c-5 single coil in a VFL shell. Peavey had started importing bodies/necks/hardware for US assembly so it made sense to continue their 'shared parts' policy and stick with the same pickup style across several models.

Black/Maple in the middle has the C-5 singles.

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I am taking my Donner Jazz bass to Church this morning to play so I can hear those ceramics again with a band. I emailed Donner last night and ask them just what they meant when they said they had their electronic team specifically design these pickups. I know they are a little thicker than a regular Jazz pickup, they might be a humbucker. If they get back to me that will be the question. I just know they get a really good sound to my ears but again who am I . I like them a lot better than the Geezer pickups in my Ibanez but you’re talking about a whole different configuration. And they are Alnico Geezer Butler are who ever pickups . I was thinking about changing the pickups in my Donner to the cheaper Alnico but my ears and you guys have help me decide I think I will leave well enough alone . I like it the bands I play with seem to like it. I just have it in my head maybe Alnico will give me a little more edge are something but again maybe it won’t so I am going to stay with what I have .
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I am taking my Donner Jazz bass to Church this morning to play so I can hear those ceramics again with a band. I emailed Donner last night and ask them just what they meant when they said they had their electronic team specifically design these pickups. I know they are a little thicker than a regular Jazz pickup, they might be a humbucker.

Donner doesn't have an "electronics team" that I know of. They're just a distributor of unbranded products.
They put their name on all kinds of things. Those pickups MIGHT be Roswell or G&B, but you can bet Donner had virtually nothing to do with them.