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How many song to learn is reasonable for an initial try-out?

#141
That's a bummer to hear about Chuck. I really wish I would have maintained that relationship. He's a good guy and I wish him well.

Jimmy Page was sloppy and anyone can play Rock n' Roll. Saying Rock n' Roll is something special that takes a special type of player to do reminds me of that line out of Joe Dirt, "Don't try and church it up, son." It's just Rock n' Roll :)
 
#143
jive1 said:
I'll put my faith in jmatt here to prove a point. If someone wants to send jmatt their set list of top 40/classic rock tunes and he can learn it in less than 2 weeks and prove it via video, I will pay the money from my next gig ($50 plus tips) to the charity of jmatt's choice.
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jmattbassplaya said:
Just let me find a way to record the stuff first! :D

But honestly, I'll do it if I can find a video recorder because this isn't a hard thing to do. It's less than three and a half songs a day - I'd like to think someone who's been playing for 40+ years could do this no problem.

Any other TB'ers who want to get in on this and already have a video recorder should speak up.
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I'm one of those who agree this can be done, easily. However, how would that be proved on video? Having 336 hours worth of footage?
 
#144
Jarrett said:
That's a bummer to hear about Chuck. I really wish I would have maintained that relationship. He's a good guy and I wish him well.

Jimmy Page was sloppy and anyone can play Rock n' Roll. Saying Rock n' Roll is something special that takes a special type of player to do reminds me of that line out of Joe Dirt, "Don't try and church it up, son." It's just Rock n' Roll :)
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Disagree completely.

As I said, show me a cover version where someone plays it right.
 
#145
jmattbassplaya said:
I bet you I could do it. I mean shoot, my band learned 20 songs in two days in order to play our first performance as a group - as in we rehearsed on Sunday and Monday and then played out that Tuesday. At that rate we could of had 140 done in two weeks.

Our gig also went down incredibly well considering the time we had to prep. Was it 'flawless'? No, but what gig ever is? I think you're the jealous one here.
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You know none of this can be proven one way or the other.

We might all be better off if we just agree that we disagree.
 
#146
bassgod0dmw said:
I'm one of those who agree this can be done, easily. However, how would that be proved on video? Having 336 hours worth of footage?
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Just a video of the person playing the songs. In the end, all that matters is whether or not they can pull it off. I don't care if they sat down next to the computer for hours playing along to a slowed down version of the song, or if they figured it out in a few minutes while driving on their way to work.

All that matters is that they can play it.

So just a video of the person playing the songs, or parts of the songs will suffice.
 
#149
Seems to me we have one guy who can't learn 50 songs in two weeks, yet a host of others who don't see what the hang up could possibly be.

I do believe the answer is self-explanatory.

With regards to rock and roll...Rock music is all about attitude, not virtuosity. I saw a wedding band do covers of a few AC/DC tunes. They played them flawlessly, note for note. Not one mistake could be detected. They also sucked on those songs, really BAD.

All the rehearsing on their part would make no difference whatsoever because while you can master a rock song in very little time, one cannot "learn" to be passionate about it. Two completely different things that don't even belong in the same discussion.
 
#153
mellowinman said:
I'm one of those "note for note like the album, UNLESS you are IMPROVING upon the original" guys.
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Is their a committee that determines what constitutes an improvement or does the buck stop with you on all things Rock n' Roll replication improvement related?

mellowinman said:
I just think many people misunderstand the point of rock and roll completely.
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Yes, its clearly quite serious business

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#154
Jarrett said:
Is their a committee that determines what constitutes an improvement or does the buck stop with you on all things Rock n' Roll replication improvement related?
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Yes there is a commitee, it's known as your audience. You can play a song note for note and get crickets, or fake your way through it and get the floor filled with dancers.

I don't make music for Rock authorities. I make it for my audience. If they are happy, I am happy. If they are not, I am not.
 
#155
jive1 said:
Nope, just different approaches. That's why you have bands like Yes and the Sex Pistols.
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Well, I don't think I could sell Yes to a bar audience, but if I were to try, I would approach their songs much like they did.

As for the Sex Pistols, we did "Anarchy," and I think we captured the spirit of the original very well. It has left the set list, however, as it didn't really fit, and I don't think a majority of the audience liked it much. There were always those few who showed their warm appreciation, but in some more upscale places, that song showed a few people to the door.
 
#156
Jarrett said:
Is their a committee that determines what constitutes an improvement or does the buck stop with you on all things Rock n' Roll replication improvement related?
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Of course the buck stops with me. I am here posting MY OPINION. That is, to offer my perspective. You already know YOUR perspective, so it would be rather silly for me to try and offer that.

An improvement is going to be like when Jimi Hendrix covered Bob Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower," or Van Halen covered the Kinks "You Really Got me."

These are subjective, but they are definitely not a case of the band just "getting by." They are an example of the band putting their own unique stamp on the song they were covering.

Playing "Rock and Roll" minus the walking bassline, or properly playing the lead guitar parts just because you smugly assumed it was simple is not an example of that.

It's just laziness, and inattentiveness to the original piece of music.
 
#158
jive1 said:
Yes there is a commitee, it's known as your audience. You can play a song note for note and get crickets, or fake your way through it and get the floor filled with dancers.

I don't make music for Rock authorities. I make it for my audience. If they are happy, I am happy. If they are not, I am not.
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Rock and roll is my religion.

I want more than just pleasing the audience. I want to please the audience, so I can play more. But I want to play something that satisfies my SOUL.

These two things are not mutually exclusive, agreed?
 

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