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I got the Headrush FRFR 108
- Thread starter JustSomeDude
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Just picked one of these up, used on ebay as a small, lightweight alternative to my larger 112.
Had a play with it at home on Saturday and was generally pleased with the tone. Very similar to the 112. Then I took it to rehearsal last night. I was 80% sure it would be fine with a drummer and two guitarists each using a helix with a Yamaha DXR10. Boy, was I surprised.
We were all blown away how powerful and deep this little box was and stunned by the clarity. It had power to spare and I even turned down the low end!
I purchased this, as I say, as a small, lightweight alternative to my 112. My plan was to use it for home practice and rehearsals. I'd seen a couple of videos about speaker size vs room size and I was thinking was that the 112 is simply too large for some rooms to be able to be cranked up without getting boomy. Even with judicious eq I still have issues in certain practice spaces. So my thinking was perhaps the smaller 108 would help. After last night I'm certain it's made a difference.
That said, it's worth mentioning I tweaked my main helix patch at home and dialled in a loudness global eq curve which would have also impacted the tone, but I'm still convinced the smaller speaker helped. It was definitely easier to load in!
The only thing I will say is that the low-end extension didn't appear to travel too far. When I get about 3m away from the speaker I noticed a discernable reduction in the deep low end. I have a feeling the 112 holds up better in this regard. That said, with adequate FOH support, this will make a fab little monitor to fill our the stage without overwhelming the PA.
One of the guitarists also tried it and was very happy with the results and may get one as a backup. It sounded bassier than the DXR but that's nothing a little eq won't fix.
PS, and no rattles!
PPS, just remembered. The threaded knob for attaching to a speaker stand worked its way loose twice with the vibrations and fell out. I'll have to find a cure for that.
PPPS, I'm also considering getting an HX Stomp as a micro alternative to the LT. Could prove useful. (If only Line 6 would produce an iOS version of Native which I could run on my iPad. I'd be a happy man then)
Had a play with it at home on Saturday and was generally pleased with the tone. Very similar to the 112. Then I took it to rehearsal last night. I was 80% sure it would be fine with a drummer and two guitarists each using a helix with a Yamaha DXR10. Boy, was I surprised.
We were all blown away how powerful and deep this little box was and stunned by the clarity. It had power to spare and I even turned down the low end!
I purchased this, as I say, as a small, lightweight alternative to my 112. My plan was to use it for home practice and rehearsals. I'd seen a couple of videos about speaker size vs room size and I was thinking was that the 112 is simply too large for some rooms to be able to be cranked up without getting boomy. Even with judicious eq I still have issues in certain practice spaces. So my thinking was perhaps the smaller 108 would help. After last night I'm certain it's made a difference.
That said, it's worth mentioning I tweaked my main helix patch at home and dialled in a loudness global eq curve which would have also impacted the tone, but I'm still convinced the smaller speaker helped. It was definitely easier to load in!
The only thing I will say is that the low-end extension didn't appear to travel too far. When I get about 3m away from the speaker I noticed a discernable reduction in the deep low end. I have a feeling the 112 holds up better in this regard. That said, with adequate FOH support, this will make a fab little monitor to fill our the stage without overwhelming the PA.
One of the guitarists also tried it and was very happy with the results and may get one as a backup. It sounded bassier than the DXR but that's nothing a little eq won't fix.
PS, and no rattles!
PPS, just remembered. The threaded knob for attaching to a speaker stand worked its way loose twice with the vibrations and fell out. I'll have to find a cure for that.
PPPS, I'm also considering getting an HX Stomp as a micro alternative to the LT. Could prove useful. (If only Line 6 would produce an iOS version of Native which I could run on my iPad. I'd be a happy man then)
Have you ever tried chaining them together as a stack? 108 for highs, And 112 for the bottom end.
not yet. I haven’t had the 108 for even a week yet. It would likely work very well as a biamp rig with the helix, but I doubt I’ll even bother trying. Too much gear to lug back and forth for me.
I’ve just realised that I’m a blithering idiot. The bass drop off from around 3 meters away was likely the proximity and floor coupling effects mixed with the fact it was on a large hollow riser.
Perhaps I’ll try it on a stand or with my gramma pad next time and see if I can coax a more consistent tone.
Although I still feel that the larger 112 will be more suitable for carrying a larger room.
Maybe standing 3meters away you're inline more with the mid/high horn?
The increase in highs can fool your ears into thinking they're hearing less bass.
Maybe, but I had it on the floor, angled up wedge style, so I doubt that's the reason.
I just ordered a Headrush Pedalboard and a Headrush FRFR108 (thank you cyber Monday). I had previously tried them out at the local big box. It sounded fine for my needs, which are....
The Pedalboard is obvious....
The 108 is for practice at home and as a bass only floor monitor when playing live. I play every week with a very talented band at my church, and under 500 person gigs regularly. Both have extremely good FOH systems that lend themselves to this very well.
I will let y’all know how it “plays” out.
The Pedalboard is obvious....
The 108 is for practice at home and as a bass only floor monitor when playing live. I play every week with a very talented band at my church, and under 500 person gigs regularly. Both have extremely good FOH systems that lend themselves to this very well.
I will let y’all know how it “plays” out.
Been of TB for a bit but I'm waiting on this little box to show up. Like the OP - I got it for guitar/mini-pa. When I play acoustic guitar, I usually don't need a monitor, but I wanted to incorporate electric guitar, and for that a portable monitor that would let me use my Eleven Rack instead of lugging my tube combo would be super nice.
Anyone using this thing on a stand? It's minor, but it bugs me that the pole mount is in the skinny end. Gator makes a tall amp stand that goes up to 30". That should keep it close enough to head level to keep the stage volume down, and close enough to the guitar if I want to use it for feedback.
Anyone using this thing on a stand? It's minor, but it bugs me that the pole mount is in the skinny end. Gator makes a tall amp stand that goes up to 30". That should keep it close enough to head level to keep the stage volume down, and close enough to the guitar if I want to use it for feedback.
I used mine on a chair several times and it sounds better than on the floor. Less boomy.
depends on your bass. A string or certain other active basses that sound great direct to the board when you're recording, also sound great direct into the 108 (which I also own). A passive bass will not sound good (due to impedance mismatch at the very least), and even an active bass that sounds bad direct to the board without any amp or cab sim will sound exactly the same going direct into the 108.
My warwick corvette, in active mode (mine can go full passive since it has passive pickups), sounds excellent direct into the 108. It sounds, of course, terrible in passive mode, since there is a huge impedance mismatch.
I've never heard of an end-device (like powered speaker) that provided phantom power. I guess they COULD have done that..... and it's a really interesting idea. But, I guess, what would that be for? It's not mic level input, which is where you normally run phantom... it's line level input.
Hmm... now you have me wondering what device you want to use with it that could utilize the phantom power? Because, ya know, you can buy phantom power units that just take and xlr in and out and have a wallwart for their own phantom power supply...
- Nov 12, 2007
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- Former Ampeg Regional Touring Artist, Currently Playing Overwater Basses
I use mine for 90% of my gigs and it works great. In fact, I bought a Tech21 Fly Rig and now have the most compact useable rig I have ever had. I bought the Headrush for 199.00 and a Demo Fly Rig for 279.00 both from Sweetwater. I can sell my Sans Amp Tech 21 alone for 225.00...and the Fly Rig has the same engine plus compression, a tuner, a second sans amp VT setting, a chorus, and an octave pedal...
