My, albeit trollish, goal here was to cast your "kids these days and their lack of dialectic" rant under the same light that it was attempting to cast. Namely, by attributing to the mere expectation of civil discourse itself the same sin of self-entitlement you imply (whether explicitly in your post, or implicitly by virtue of the context ["downfall of western civilization," and all that]) those trying to shut down the discourse are guilty of. Your basic "shoe's on the other foot" devil's advocacy.“Typical snowflake?” For the amount of time we’ve both been members here, and been reading each other’s posts, I thought you knew me, and I you, a little better than that. Guess I was mistaken. My bad.
For your benefit (since everybody here seems to get where I’m coming from but you) my comment was directed at the inappropriate and overuse of the word “hate” or “hate on” that crops up all too often these days whenever any criticism is leveled at anything. It’s childish because it’s a shaming move. It doesn’t address the criticism being made. It attacks the motives and character of the person saying they don’t care for something. Because “hate” (if you bother to look up the actual definition) is a pretty ugly word. And a pretty ugly accusation to lightly throw at people. If me taking issue with that when I see it is soapboxing, then so be it. Feel free to disregard it if so. I see no reason to change my position on that bit of misusage.
As far as somebody disagreeing with my opinions or dismissing them out of hand (who exactly did that btw?) feel free. I won’t be offended. I treat disagreement- if conducted in a well reasoned and moderately respectful manner - to be an opportunity for me to learn something rather than an excuse to feel insulted. Something I’m able to do because I don’t pretend to have all the answers or the final word on any topic. If I did, I’d already know all I needed to know, and not need to bother coming here.
Hope that clarifies.
Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!
The use of "snowflake" was intended to be the giveaway term for the irony of the post, turning around a term typically used for deriding the "participation trophy" generation and applying it to someone older. But it seems it was too subtle (or perhaps too un-subtle) to achieve that aim. Certainly did not mean to connote any of its uses in left/right political diatribe.
So, sorry if the humor didn't land, no disrespect intended beyond my typical asinine irreverence.
But I stand by my point that "hater's gonna hate" is as viable an entry into the discourse as any well reasoned argument, as much as it may chafe your sensibilities. Its use is not meant to be taken as seriously as you've taken it (or as seriously as you took my post), and it is inherently incapable of shaming or shutting down, as your own analysis suggests. It's just a shorthand dismissal along the lines of "you've just got an axe to grind' or "you just don't ‘get it.’” Read it as such and I think you'll have a better time.
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