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I Miss The 2x15!

Started with a roll and tuck Kustom 2-15. Peavey 2-15. PV with Force 15's, PV 2-15 with Eminence 3015's. The 15's generally need more breathing room than stock cabs allow.



The TL-606/3015's are a nice pair, but they have been gathering dust since the Greenboy fEarful 15/6/1 build.

The 3015LF and 6.5" mid will eat 2-15's for lunch.

I tried the other stuff, and I keep coming back to 15" drivers.

The Eminence LF drivers are so cool, I'll be building a 12/6 to have a light weight cab.

If you think a 15/6 will eat a 2x15, you should check out my 15/6+15/sub rig. Its pretty ridiculous.

At one time I had a Kustom 3x15 rig. I would never ever ever want to go back. "old" 15 rigs make me cringe.
 
Yeah, go for a good vintage SUNN 2000S cabinet. :D

There is nothing better.
That's similar to what I'm running. 2000s head into a 2000s cab with JBL K140s. I doubt there is much better. Except for the 2000s head into a 2000s cab and ANOTHER 2000s cab.......which I will be running sometime before the end of 2011.......

There is no doubt that a K140 loaded 2000S cab really brings the thunder.

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Either of these rigs will move some serious air. With a pair of 2000S cabs they can get scary loud and have a real big footprint, practically unusable unless you're outside and even then on a pretty sizeable stage.

But... what a bear to move. Heavy as all get out and almost requiring a van to transport a pair.
 
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One advantage of smaller coned speakers is that the high frequencies will be more even off axis compared to larger speakers. It isn't as big of a deal with bass cabs, but with guitar cabs the sound will be much different dead center compared to off to the side. Another reason for a separate mid or tweeter too.
 
I'm right there with you all on the old school thump of a 2x15 ... but I'm too old and decrepit to haul such boxes anymore and I'm playing pretty small joints these days, anyway. My compromise was to get a junior sized, neo loaded 2x15 ... a Schroeder 1515L. 800 watts, very efficient, slightly smaller than a Mesa Boogie 1x15 cab, and only 40 pounds. It simply screams with my Ashdown ABM 500 EVO II head.

BTW ... that Sunn 2000S with the JBL K-140 loaded 2x15 has got to be the bomb. I had the same cabinet loaded with the same speakers only with an early 70's SVT head back in my full time playing days and it was the bomb, too.
 
I don't know if there is a relationship between tube vs. solid state (or vintage vs modern amps) and compatible speaker sizes ... I would assume not but ...

I used to have a 1970 Traynor YBA-3 tube amp that only sounded good with 15" cabs ... and it was more than good, it was righteous. 210 and 115 or 410 not so righteous.

On the other hand I have a hybrid Traynor/Yorkville XS800H head that sounds best matched with 8 X 8" speakers!

Pairing the 1970 head with the 8X8 is terrible (brittle), as is pairing the modern amp with 15"s (muddy).

Just an observation with no technical knowledge on why that may be!
 
I love the gigs where I get to crank the 2x15 still my favorite. Mine is an older Peavey (plywood with slot ports) loaded with EV15L speakers.

As much as I love the sound of a 2000S with JBL's, athough they have "Casters included for easy transport" ;), the size and weight (I think the listed 200lbs is probably conservative for the 2000S) of them makes regular gigging with them pretty cumbersome.
My "go to" 215 cab for the last few years has been a smaller 40" X 24" X 15" Sunn 215S cab with EVM15L's.
IMO tight and fairly articulate, and even though the "L" stands for "lead", plenty of bottom end, but a little more defined than the EVM15B's in the same cab. Not exactly a lightweight at around 100 lbs, but a walk in the park compared to wrestling a 2000S cab around.

From the Sunn catalog - lists all specs

One spec not listed;
In 1969 dollars a 2000S rig cost $1995, the same price as a brand new entry level Ford Maverick. Plugging that into the CPI online inflation caculator gives a figure of $11,894.06 in 2010 dollars.
Pretty pricey territory for a bass amp in those days, not exactly in the reach of most casual part time players.
I think most of them were purchased by pro players, or sent out on endorsement deals, which probably accounts for why there are so few 2000Ss around as compared to 200Ss.

One other unusual thing is that there seem to be by far more 2000S heads around than cabs, because every 2000S amp came with at least one cabinet; you could by additional cabs, but you couldn't by an amp "à la carte", a "2000S" was a head with a cabinet(s).