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i-pod or zune

i-pod or zune?

  • i-pod

    Votes: 53 66.3%
  • zune

    Votes: 27 33.8%

  • Total voters
    80
You can probably get a first generation 30GB Zune from ebay for about 60 bucks. It plays vids, holds crap loads of pics and with the new software update, you can get on a wi-fi and download or peruse the zune music store. I got the zune pass which is cool, but all the music i downloaded (legally) will evaporate if I cancel, but I am not.

You can also plug the zune into an Xbox 360 and play though the entertainment system.

The only thing that ticks me off is occasionally I will build up a static charge and grab my zune and it will reset itself. Maybe its the protective case of mine, but that is the only problem I have had with it.
 
I have yet to see anything that can beat the touch. It can seriously do anything. Don't even consider anything else. Itunes is the best system that I have ever seen for arranging music as well, once you look into what it can do, although the basic working of it is really nice as well. Drag and drop FTW. I have had a creative in the past and I have used a few zunes and they don't even come close to the touch.

lowsound
 
I have a Zune and love it. I got a first gen right after they came out and it's been flawless. The software was rather clunky to begin with, but it's better now. The new Zunes are great, the touchpad is a great input method. Plus it's just great not being tethered to iTunes.
 
They don't.

AAC is part of the MP4 standard. Plays on most devices. Takes up less space than MP3/sounds better than MP3. Only the DRM is proprietry, and more and more itunes stuff is DRM free.

iPods/iTunes fully support MP3 if you have older files, or files from other places.

Compare that to Zune: Locked in MS format. It isn't even compatable with the previous Microsoft "Play for sure" product line.

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I prefer not to vote since I don't have any experience with the Zune, but one thing's for sure: I love my 160 GB iPod Classic. And for those of you who hate iTunes, Winamp plus the ml_ipod plug-in are the best iPod managing solution (Winamp has native iPod support, but the plug-in does a way better job). The only reason I have iTunes installed in my PC is just to check for iPod software updates.
 
Alvaro Martín Gómez A.;6555201 said:
I prefer not to vote since I don't have any experience with the Zune, but one thing's for sure: I love my 160 GB iPod Classic. And for those of you who hate iTunes, Winamp plus the ml_ipod plug-in are the best iPod managing solution (Winamp has native iPod support, but the plug-in does a way better job). The only reason I have iTunes installed in my PC is just to check for iPod software updates.

Good plug. I used to use this (now Winamp comes iPod-ready) but yeah, I hate iTunes.
 
I have an iPod 160 and love it. As for who needs 160 gb of storage. I don't just use it as a portable player. It litterally has all the music I own on it. I can take it from room to room, hook it to docks or sound systems and have everything I'm in the mood for. I also take it on the road (I drive everywhere). Sometimes I really am in the mood for Pink Floyd for 6 hours while driving through Northern Iowa.

My wife has a 4 gb mini. She loves it. She likes simple stuff that works every time. It does.

I'm in the ease of use and reliablity camp. Before my 160 I had a 30gb iPod for about 3 years, solid as a rock.
 
iPod.

I bought my 2 gig Nano a few years ago once my uber-cheapie died. I'm planning on buying the biggest classic once I get some bills paid off. Not a pressing thing, but the video part would be nice.

iTunes is easy enough for my Dad & Step-Mom to use without trouble. That is a testament to the software.

As far as why having 120-160 gigs of storage? The having all the music and some movies/TV shows with you where ever you are.
 
I can understand some of the concerns for windows users with iTunes, but if you have a Mac, an Ipod is far and away the best choice. itunes for the Mac is a great piece of software.

I purchase most of my music from the iTunes store now as I can get a CD for 9.99 rather than $12-19. I typically buy it in the higher bitrate iTunes Plus format, which sounds *almost* as good as CD.

If you rip your own CDs, iTunes will handle a great deal of formats including AAC (personally, I think it's the best choice for sound/size ratio), Apple Lossless (which renderes OGG or FLACC files unnecessary) or even the full (HUGE) .wav file straight from the CD (although you'd be an idiot to put such large files on an iPod).

Plus it automatically syncs your podcasts, tv shows, movies, photos, notes, etc.

I've been using iTunes on Mac OS 8, 9, and X since even before there was an iPod. Good stuff. I typically don't use my iPod however, as I tend to use my laptop for music at work and use my AppleTV's as jukeboxes at home. Of course, they all run off of iTunes.

Psychbass
 
Proprietary garbage dump?

The crappy part (as stated, for Windows) I get.

I don't understand the proprietary part, unless you're going for the literal meaning of that it's owned by a company, which is true for almost any non-freeware software application. It was also not originally developed by Apple, but was purchased from Cassidy and Greene, which makes great software.

What about iTunes is proprietary when you can use a variety of formats for your media, the majority of which do not involve DRM. Note the following variety of choices: iTunes 8 can currently read, write, and convert between MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AAC, and Apple Lossless.

iTunes can also play any audio files that QuickTime can play (as well as some video formats), including Protected AAC files from the iTunes Store and Audible.com audio books. There is limited support for Vorbis and FLAC enclosed in an Ogg container (files using the FLAC container format are not supported) or Speex codecs with the Xiph QuickTime Components.

The latest version of iTunes (Win/Mac) supports importing audio CDs with the default iTunes standard file format of AAC at 128 kbit/s, but users can choose from 16 kbit/s to 320 kbit/s constant bit rates (CBR) in either AAC or MP3.

The Windows version of iTunes can automatically transcode DRM-free WMA (including version 9) files to other audio formats, but does not support playback of WMA files and will not transcode DRM protected WMA files. Telestream, Inc. provides free codecs for Mac users of QuickTime to enable playback of unprotected Windows Media files.

I'm not seeing the limitations here. Not wanting to fight, I'm just not seeing it.

Psychbass
 
I'm surprised that no1 has mentioned the Samsung P2.

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with the exception of wi-fi, it can do EVERYTHING that the iTouch can do.

It also has Blue-tooth capabilities. You can sync it to your phone and wireless headsets.