MVPBASS said:
I think its more than rude, its INSANE that they dismissing, flat out disrespecting Fodera to one of the owners face, argueing with Roy Vogt (yes, look him up, he's famous and well respected), a man that had accomplished more ryan any of us here put together, andsay that George Furlanetto hand builds his preamps and pickups from "scraps found in a Spector dumpster in Korea" all by guys that admittedly choose to play Squier basses. Hello pot, you are black.
I for one have not disrespected the guys from Fodera in any way, nor do I plan to at any point for any reason.
But let's clear this up real quick, people are people and they are going to be people regardless of how anyone feels about it.
I myself am not for nor against Fodera and have no feelings towards them or their product in anyway.
((I will say that I don't find the majority of them (that i have seen) aesthetically pleasing. And I can narrow that down to just the top portion where you would find the upper horn on a Jazz bass, it's that overly long extended section that seems to just be way to big for the overall body that turns me off about them. It's funny looking (to me & for my tastes)
Of coarse I am no authority on bass aesthetics in any way, I personally think all basses are funny looking except the Fender Jazz Bass. Basically if it's not a J Bass it's not appealing to me in any way and looks off somewhat.))
Why shouldn't the guys that play less expensive basses voice their opinions here? This is after all a forum and it's sole purpose is to do just that correct?
Do you honestly believe that just because the guys at Fodera have decided to join in on the conversation that now all of a sudden people with opposing views should gather at their feet and bow down to their spectacular, infallible presence?
If Fodera / Roy Vogt or whatever his name is decided to join an Internet debate about people's views surrounding boutique basses I would imagine he did so knowing that he would be met with opposing views and opinions. It really should come as no surprise. Considering the vested interest They/he holds in this subject I'd actually go so far as to say the guys voicing their opinions are beneficial to their company and it's not every company that is able to go online and get such passionate views on their products.
Something many companies are willing to pay big money for. I am sure Fodera and Ray are not going to run home crying their eyes out because some guys on the Internet don't like their product or don't agree with the cost associated with it.
You say that that "this guy has done more than any of us here put together" why because he builds guitars? Maybe he's a great guy and a great bass builder or great company owner, you'll have to forgive me, I really don't know anything about him.
However we have a very diverse group of members here within the forum, probably some firefighters, soldiers, police officers, church leaders, school teachers, industrial workers, entreapenuars and so many more.
To say this guy has done more than all of us because he builds a bass that you like is a bit of a stretch isn't it?
That qualification alone hardly classifies him as a hero in my book. I'll take the blue collar firefighter or soldier or police officer all day over the bass guitar builder. Just my opinion though.
Maybe Roy has other accomplishments in his life that help him to fit into the role of a hero but I hardly think his bass building is his life's greatest gift to humanity and if it is it's definitely not in my eyes any great service that warrants him becoming one of my idols nor does it reserve him a place in my life and thoughts as being famous, a hero, or anything else aside from a talented bass builder. At the end of the day he's just another guy that makes a high quality bass guitar for the general public at a premium price.
((No offense intended to Roy or Fodera I honestly hope you guys don't have such high personal regard of yourselves above & beyond the rest of us.))
Now if you want to play Fodera cheerleader by all means knock yourself out, you are entitled to hail the mighty bass building gods until your blue in the face. You can play Fodera or Roy Vogt fan boy all day and night if it tickles your pickle, by all means feel free.
But please don't assume that because you have such high regards for these guys as one of your personal heroes, that the rest of the TB community should kneel at their feet and bow down to the supreme beings you believe them to be.
I personally have my own mind and have no desire to conform to this expected sheep mentality you are expecting the community to adhere to.
A good buddy of mine plays in a local band is a firefighter part time and a US soldier as well. I know for certain on more than one occasion he has saved the lives of many people while performing his duties.
There are children out there who now have a life to live thanks to this guys efforts. That my friend is a hero. Again, at least in my opinion anyway.
He plays a Squire P Bass. Maybe he'd love to have a Fodera I really don't know I'd have to ask him but for now he plays a Squire.
So you go ahead and cheer for your idols, hail at there feet sing their praises do what you feel is needed but please be realistic when addressing the rest of the good people here. Not all of us have such incredible worship of the good people of Fodera.
I'm sure they are all very nice guys and it would seem some are very talented sure but that definitely does not automatically make them better human beings than the rest of us here at TB regardless of our opinions. We are all people at the end of the day and we all have our own personal accomplishments and achievements. Some better than others sure but I can say with absolute certainty that there are greater achievements within the TB community than building nice basses.
I would hope that the guys at Fodera would agree with that, but who knows maybe they like the blind, fan boy, cheer leader, followings of sheep like yourself.
