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Identify the SX vs. Fender in the mix thread

FWIW, the mighty mite fit VERY tightly in the pocket, much better than the original neck fit(and better than any Fender fit that I recall seeing) I'm not going to try it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the neck stayed in place w/o screws. It's that tight of a fit.

Here's what puzzles me:
If Mighty Mite necks fit SX bodies so well (and there is much evidence of this on Talk Bass), and Fender necks DON'T fit SX bodies, then how is it that Mighty Mite necks can fit Fender bodies (which I assume is their original reason for existing)??! :confused:
 
FWIW, the mighty mite fit VERY tightly in the pocket, much better than the original neck fit(and better than any Fender fit that I recall seeing) I'm not going to try it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the neck stayed in place w/o screws. It's that tight of a fit.

Here's what puzzles me:
If Mighty Mite necks fit SX bodies so well (and there is much evidence of this on Talk Bass), and Fender necks DON'T fit SX bodies, then how is it that Mighty Mite necks can fit Fender bodies (which I assume is their original reason for existing)??! :confused:

Whose saying a Fender neck won't fit? What type of Fender neck? MightyMite, warmoth, AllParts, etc are all licensed replacement necks for MIA Fenders. I haven't tried it, but it seems to me like a MIA Fender neck should fit.
 
FWIW, the mighty mite fit VERY tightly in the pocket, much better than the original neck fit(and better than any Fender fit that I recall seeing) I'm not going to try it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the neck stayed in place w/o screws. It's that tight of a fit.



Whose saying a Fender neck won't fit? What type of Fender neck? MightyMite, warmoth, AllParts, etc are all licensed replacement necks for MIA Fenders. I haven't tried it, but it seems to me like a MIA Fender neck should fit.

I can't even begin to cite the posts over the last few months and years saying that the SX neck pocket is too big to make a tight fit with Fender necks. Maybe a .01mm gap is a deal-breaker for a lot of these folks. (?)
 
Yep. They are. Which segment are you?

I suppose it all would depend on what mood I'm in and the situation. More often than not, I'll grab the SX first, because it's the most sensible one to use.

Certain nights, if I'm in the right mood, and I'm comfortable enough with the security, and limited access to the backstage area, I'll grab the Old Fender.

Other times I'll use the 2008 MIA Precision, but normaly I only use that one when I break a string, or if the strings are getting real tired on the SX.

I didn't know this was an either/or type of thing. ;)

I'll use whichever one I think is most appropriate, or which ever one I feel like playing. :)
 
So, Savit, if the house was burning down and you could only save one bass, I'm assuming it would be the old Fender? :)

At this point I have a LOT of history with the SX as well as the old Fender.

Probably would be the old Fender though, but it would be a difficult decision. It would be harder to replace the Fender, so in the "only can save one".....tough call.


On the flip side...
As a matter of practicality the SX is actually more usefull these days though as it's a LOT less stress to take that one out to shows... BUT I could replace it if I had to.
 
Am I not allowed to ask questions to understand why he has the position he does, or his demeanor behind his question? You may know him better than I. I found it odd someone would own an expensive bass and yet so readily advocate a cheaper one. He has answered me regarding that question, and I have accepted his answers. Occasionally I have asked other questions to understand further.


I probably would have thought the same thing 5 years ago.

As stated before, I NEVER intended this SX bass to be my main bass. It was purchased originaly to be a backup/beater to use on gigs that I didn't want to take the Fender to. Funny thing along the way was , I found it to be a very decent instrument, and after some fine tuning, it became more than good enough to actually take over as my "primary workhorse" bass. Good enough in fact, where I could take the old Fender out of the show rotation, and save what's left of it from any more wear and tear and abuse.

Now you may question my motivations, and that's fine. It's just the internet, and as stated in the O.P. I have pretty thick skin. ;) I can assure you though, that the motivation isn't to say one bass is any better than the next, or this is what people should play. Just simply here are two basses from extreem ends of the price spectrum. One is a brand that gets called a lot of nasty things and another one that is pretty well regarded by many and is the "industry standard" Some have said that it would be very easy as pie to tell them appart. I was curious if people actually could or not. It's really not a whole lot more complicated than that.

If you want to view that as ego stroking... well.. I guess that's you perogative, but I don't see it that way. ;)
 
I was talking with a guy yesterday at Atomic Music who was considering starting to play bass and asked for recommendations. I asked what price range he had in mind and recommended a few basses in the store to check out, among them some Fender Squiers and SX's.

That's interesting. I wasn't aware that MUSIC stores carry the SX brand. What's the price of the SX's at Atomic Music compared to Rondo Music?

As far as I know, they don't. They must not be new but used. I could be wrong though.

Atomic Music (both stores) don't list any "SX" or "Essex" instruments in their used gear listings.

The phone numbers of the Atomic Music stores are on their website should anyone wish to call when they're open to inquire if they have them in the stores. I may call tomorrow, I could use me a cheap used SX.

UPDATE: FWIW, I called both the Rockville MD and Beltsville MD Atomic Music stores and neither have any SX basses, though they say they occasionally get them in used.
 
Well, "entertaihment" isn't a word, so what did you mean?

If you're going to attempt insulting our intelligence it may be helpful if you used actual words.

I'll let you ponder that a while longer. Clearly the smiley wasn't the dead giveaway it should've been.

If you choose to take what I wrote as an insult, that's on you. Unless you were the one who was not bright enough to see I wasn't ragging on SX's, then where's the insult? If you were, how much difficulty did you have reading what clearly was not written? Do you see accusing me of doing something I didn't do as insulting?
:D
 
Atomic Music (both stores) don't list any "SX" or "Essex" instruments in their used gear listings.

The phone numbers of the Atomic Music stores are on their website should anyone wish to call when they're open to inquire if they have them in the stores. I may call tomorrow, I could use me a cheap used SX.

UPDATE: FWIW, I called both the Rockville MD and Beltsville MD Atomic Music stores and neither have any SX basses, though they say they occasionally get them in used.

They had a like new Ash with black blocks and binding on the day I mentioned. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy I was talking to bought it, I gave it a very good referral as usual. He played it for quite a while while we talked.

Oh wait... I only rag on them
;) <<< see the smiley?

:D

BTW anyone in the market for a 15 string (tripled) Warrior should give them a call. Their inventory can change quickly. Atomic's website is not always up to date though in this case it might be.
 
If you choose to take what I wrote as an insult, that's on you. Unless you were the one who was not bright enough to see I wasn't ragging on SX's, then where's the insult? If you were, how much difficulty did you have reading what clearly was not written? Do you see accusing me of doing something I didn't do as insulting?
:D

Ah, yet another example of the typical Brad Johnson derisive response.
 
I think I definitively answered why I still own the Fender, but I'll do it again for you. It's the bass by which I judge all others, and a LOT of personal history with it. It's bought and payed for YEARS ago. I've used that bass in every band I've ever played with as an adult. I've used it on stages big and small. It's the bass that "brought me to the dance" so to speak. It's not for sale at any price.

I guess you really don't get it. Some people will prefer the name brand drug. Others may only be able to afford the generic, while others might just be able to afford the name brand, but chose the generic to save a buck.

Take what you want out the thread, but IMO, (as the O.P.) you're missing the boat.

Many people wouldn't want to take the time to sort out one of these inexpensive basses to get them to play and sound their absolute best. For people who aren't "tinkerers" there are PLENTY of very nice optioins on the market, not the least of which is a number of offerings from Fender. For someone on a budget, or just not willing to spend a ton of money, these SX basses are a very viable option, are solid gigworthy basses that can and do perform admirably when sorted out (required IMO)

This is just another thread about what can be done with these budget priced basses, given a little TLC. We also have threads where the basses are dead stock as well. This one adds the "in the mix" element that hasn't really been covered before.



Most of this discussion has been pretty fun IMO. :)

That's what I thought too. I'd like to thank you for the interaction we've had, you took nothing I said personally nor as being malicious and that falls in line with my intent. If only that happened more often in a discussion where people simply have a genuine difference of opinion around here.
:cool:
 
Ah, yet another example of the typical Brad Johnson derisive response.

You know what, Mongo, you're right. It's obviously not factual and simply derisive.
:hmm:

Someone mentioned they thought I was ragging on SX's. As derisive as it may sound, if that person can read the actual words in this thread objectively and come away with that idea, I honestly don't know what their malfunction is. My guess is the age-old "reading for slights" that seems to afflict so many online.

Now would that person actually admit that they might be mistaken? Hell no. That type of person would never do that... and that's how we end up right where we are now.

Whomever said I was ragging on SX's was wrong. They can't admit that now because that would put an end to another silly interweb tangent. I'm not whining about them being wrong, I'm simply pointing it out.

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