Been done more than once here.
JimmyM's thread was the difinitive one IMO.
Gassieball did one, and I know there's been others.
People seemed to have a tough time in those threads too.
This time, it's modded and in the mix vs. my personal 64 P.
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Identify the SX vs. Fender in the mix thread
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Been done more than once here.
JimmyM's thread was the difinitive one IMO.
Gassieball did one, and I know there's been others.
People seemed to have a tough time in those threads too.
This time, it's modded and in the mix vs. my personal 64 P.
Glad it worked out. Me and computers don't always get along....
So.....did I get at least one right???
Which had nothing to do withthis:
We were talking about this thread, I asked a question specifically about the basses in this thread and instead you offer your experiences with other basses.
Which again has zip to do with my question. Okay? They're not facts presented in this thread.
+1. A heck of a lot better "test" than it currently is.
It's amazing that some in this thread don't see the problem of having the bass that deep in the mix.
Brad, with all due respect.... that's where most basses live... in a mix.
Regardless, playing both basses in my living room or on a stage give the same results.
I purposefully dialed the SX in to feel and sound as much like the old Fender as possibe. I did that in my living room, which translated very well on to the stage, and then in to the studio as well IMO.
Actually, the bass isn't exactly "burried" in that mix.... it's rather out front in a lot of tracks..
Actually they don't. Most people are neither in a band nor do they record. With all due respect.
I can't tell... there's way more going on that obscures the overall sound of the bass. I would be shocked if it didn't sound markedly different soloed.
I am curious... are you saying you ran the basses direct with no compression or tweaks? I remeber something about no studio magic.
It does not stand alone. I'm not saying I can't hear it at all, I'm saying it's pretty well surrounded by other sounds enough that I can't really tell what it truly sounds like.
I agreed with you wholeheartedly. YOU see this as proving that an SX with a Lollar pickup performed as well as a Pre-CBS Fender. Which brand did you give the edge as far as playability? That's a part of performing for many musicians. Right?
The SX is the easier of the two to play due to the smaller neck, and they both have a great feel, and the set ups are pretty much the same.
Looks like you got a some correct, and some incorrect.
I'd love to disclose them all right now, but I have to go make some $$ now.
Do you even for a moment believe what they said?
If not...
Of course I don't, but it's fun to taste the pudding to see if the proof is there or not.
They don't sound markedly different solo'ed.
I'd love to invite you all over for cookies and milk to demo them in person, but that's not really practical.
have to admit i don't get the whole sx modding thing. i guess i don't have to as long as you're happy
fat chance of that happening
Generally speaking...
In a lot of cases, historically, people think they're saving money. That's nothing new. People did it with Fenders when they couldn't or wouldn't buy an alembic, Ken Smith, ad nauseum... buy some of the same parts and voila! You have the same thing.
Except in most cases you didn't. You have your bass with different parts. And the kicker is that it usually adds nothing to the resale value of the bass, ofttimes it hurts it instead. And sometimes it neither played nor sounded any better.
I've modded a few basses over the years and came to the realization that I'd simply rather have something that was right in the first place than go on a mod quest. I've yet to play a modded bass that was nicer than what I could've bought in the first place. That's why I don't do it anymore.
I have no doubt that a modded SX could be the bee's knees for many people. To think that makes it the equal of another much higher priced bass is probably fun to. It probably is... for you. And that's cool.
Enjoy.
Actually, in a band setting IS what it truely sounds like IMO.
MY Bacchus probalby sounds best on it's own of the basses I own, but it's also the worst in a mix. Meaning the SX is a FAR more usefull bass to me.
I'd dare say that most bass players play in bands. It's not really a great solo instrument IMO.
Maybe, but I am in a band. How a bass sounds in the mix is far more important to me than how it sounds soloed. If it doesn't sound good in the mix, I really couldn't care less about how it sounds by itself.
I like Savit's idea of comparing the sounds of the basses involved in the context that they are used in.
The way I have my basses setup, and my rig set, my sound is extremely mid-heavy and harsh by itself, which is a sound I've grown to love, though some might even find it brittle. In the mix, it slots right in and is loud without being muddy or overpowering the other instruments.
I didn't say they did... I said I wouldn't be shocked if they did. And despite what you're contending, I still wouldn't be surprised, depending on who's playing them.
I'd love to invite you all over for cookies and milk to demo them in person, but that's not really practical.
Let someone who has no vested interest in either bass play them soloed.
Honestly, I'm not that crazy about P basses to begin with. I might dislike both of them equally.
I don't think there's any maybe about it.
1. How many people own basses?
2. How many bands are there?
3. How many people record?
Think 2 and 3 are anywhere near 1?
That's the point of what you quoted, not your experience. I play in bands too but that doesn't make a wrong statement right.
Yes, it shows two basses in one kind of music. That's all. So what does that prove for everyone else, particularly those who don't use their bass in the same context?
I'll take your word for it.
MY Bacchus probalby sounds best on it's own of the basses I own, but it's also the worst in a mix. Meaning the SX is a FAR more usefull bass to me.
I'd dare say that most bass players play in bands. It's not really a great solo instrument IMO.
Savit, that simply makes no sense. Do you really think there are that many bands? Most bass players play in bands?
Which had nothing to do withthis:
We were talking about this thread, I asked a question specifically about the basses in this thread and instead you offer your experiences with other basses.
Which again has zip to do with my question. Okay? They're not facts presented in this thread.
You brought up the topic of playability, since it's ridiculous to assume I would know anything about the playability of the basses in this thread, I offered my experiences with basses I actually own. Those experiences are now facts presented in this thread. Just for the record, how many SXs have you owned?
