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IEM: Carvin EM900 vs AT M2

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by sleepy_monkey, Feb 8, 2014.

  1. I have a chance to get 2 sets of the AT M2 at a pretty good price...used. Or I can buy the Carvin EM900 new. This will be used for 2 things....IEM at my house to practice and to send a signal to my powered speakers when I have an event. So with the AT I would be getting 2 full setups (2 transmitters, 2 receivers, etc), with the Carvin I would be getting 1 transmitter and 2 receivers.

    Anyone used both?
  2. iriegnome

    iriegnome Bassstar style Supporting Member

    Nov 23, 2001
    Kenosha, WI 53140
    Very interested in these results. I need to upgrade my IEM's very soon
  3. I am leaning towards the ATs bc of price, but buying new has an appeal as well. Plus I like the displays on the Carvin. Are the displays bright enough to see in the dark? Plus the Carvins are metal, the ATs are plastic.
  4. Rip Topaz

    Rip Topaz

    Aug 12, 2005
    Willow Street, PA
    Beta tester for Positive Grid
    I think the Carvin setup is gonna be my tax time purchase this year. I don't really need another bass (shh.. Don't tell my wife!!), so I've decided to shop for an IEM rig. I already own a kickass Carvin PA, so it just makes sense to me to stick with what I know is quality. I'll report back in a few weeks when I get them.
  5. iriegnome

    iriegnome Bassstar style Supporting Member

    Nov 23, 2001
    Kenosha, WI 53140
    I know when I did a comparison a while ago, the Carvin compared very well to the Shure 400 series (if I remember correctly)
  6. Carvin raised their prices on all the IEM stuff within the last 2 months or I would have already pulled the plug. That takes them closer to the rest of the competition so now it makes sense to give the others a look too.
  7. RichardCranium

    RichardCranium Supporting Member

    Mar 9, 2009
    Boynton Bch FL
    No experience with the Carvin but I've had the M2 for a couple of years and it's a solid unit I've had no issues at all with it. Once in a while I have to change the channels because of interference but that's about it.
  8. Ukiah Bass

    Ukiah Bass

    May 10, 2006
    Maybe they raised their prices when they improved the warranty. I looked into their device last Fall and I recall the warranty was super short - 10, maybe 20 days? No more than a month. That really surprised me and turned me off to the idea of buying it. I had two Carvin amps crap out in the 1990s, and one had been repaired twice by Carvin. Left a sour taste in my mouth and suspicious of the integrity of their electronics. I had better luck with their speaker cabinets (of which I owned six different models) but eventually moved on to better sounding products.
  9. iriegnome

    iriegnome Bassstar style Supporting Member

    Nov 23, 2001
    Kenosha, WI 53140
    The Carvin is only $400. That doesn't seem to be to badly priced. Same price as a used PBass!
  10. True...add in the rack ears....$35.

    I can get 2 used AT M2 sets for $530 total (2 trans, 2 rec, rackmount stuff, 2 sets earbuds) or the Carvin setup for $660-ish...1 trans, 2 receivers, 1 earbuds. Decisions.

    I like the look of the carvin better....I am a sucker for readouts...haha.
  11. DGilpatrick


    Jan 9, 2009
    Tampico, IL
    I used the Galaxy Audio AS-1100 until it died, and then I went with the Carvin EM900. The Carvin has a much lower frequency response. I'm using Shure SE425 ears, and I hooked up a 15 band EQ to the unit. Now I really only use my cab to feel the vibrations on stage because my bass in my ears now sounds as deep as my cab did.
    jondiener likes this.
  12. D1on


    Apr 13, 2011
    Go with the AT.
    You're getting two for the price of one. I have three sets.

  13. How of you like the AT's?
  14. D1on


    Apr 13, 2011
    Love em. Do yourself a favor and get better plugs though. Custom molds if you can or at least some se425's

    And they work great for making powered speakers wireless.
  15. derrico1

    derrico1 Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2005
    Charlottesville, VA
    I've used only the Carvin, not the M2s, but...

    How likely are you to expand your applications? As-is, the 2nd transmitter would let you and a bandmate each run a stereo IEM mix for rehearsals. But if you might eventually expand the system with more receivers for gigging, the 2nd transmitter is a bigger deal. (Personally, I don't mind wired for rehearsal—and it's a lot cheaper that way. So if this were a system I wouldn't be gigging, I probably wouldn't drop the scratch just to expand a *wireless* IEM rehearsal system. YMMV.)

    As-is, with the Carvin's one transmitter and two receivers in dual-mono mode, you could have a mono IEM mix for yourself while sending the FOH mix to one powered cab; but you'd have to daisy-chain a pass-through signal from that first cab across stage to your second powered cab.

    But with the AT system's two transmitters, add a 3rd receiver, and you can drive your powered FOH cabs while still enjoying your own stereo IEM mix.

    Add a 4th receiver, and you could feed both of your active FOH cabs wirelessly, while still having a stereo IEM mix for yourself. Or you could wire your FOH cabs, and instead run four custom mixes (in dual-mono mode) for bandmates. Or, you could feed your active FOH cabs w/o daisy-chain cabling, and have dual mono mixes for yourself and a bandmate.

    Not going to do any of that? I'd get the Carvins, which work well and are good value. Thinking of expanding? The two-transmitter system starts to give a lot more flexibility.
  16. iriegnome

    iriegnome Bassstar style Supporting Member

    Nov 23, 2001
    Kenosha, WI 53140
    Not to mention that with Carvin's replacement Out of Warranty program, you send them the broken unit and they charge you 1/2 price and just send out a brand new receiver. We use the Carvin recievers with out Nady PEM-500's which are not sold by Carvin any longer. It was great. They were like $120 new and when we broke on, it was $60 for a replacement. No questions asked.. I did like that.
  17. How long do the Carvins offer that?
  18. iriegnome

    iriegnome Bassstar style Supporting Member

    Nov 23, 2001
    Kenosha, WI 53140
    Well, we had been using the Nady/Carvin packs for years. When Carvin discontinued the older series that stopped. We stopped using the Nady's about the same time. I actually think Nady replaces theirs the same way. IIRC, we exchanged them for about 4 or 5 years when they discontinued them. Not sure if they still have that policy, but that was the Out of Warranty program. The new body pack receivers are metal now and won't break as easily as the old Nady/Carvin plastic case ones.
  19. Anyone know if Carvin does or will offer a unit that operates in the 500MHz band? The FCC is auctioning off the 600MHz band next year and the current EM900s operate right in the middle of it.
  20. Really? Hmm...well that would change everything.