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If i had $8499...

You've never seen a thread where one particular member (who has posted quite often in this thread) unleashes his full hatred for inexpensive basses and their owners?

In fact, that same poster has even posted about his feelings in this thread.

You have never once understood why I say what I say, Mongo...and I guess you never will.

I don't hate inexpensive basses or their owners...I hate kool aid drinking and internet forum hype and internet forum cliques.....and to tell the truth, I do hate what these bargain brand basses are doing to the economy. I don't hate the basses...and have said ad naseum that I would buy one if I was a rank beginner, and that they are obviously better then the bargain brands we had back in the day....

When you are on a esteemed and popular bass forum such as this, and on any given day 70% of the threads are in praise of bargain brand basses....well, that ANNOYS me....doesn't me I hate anything at all.

And YOU annoy me because you somehow insinuated that I NEED an expensive bass to play or sound good...with your Poor craftsman quote BS that despite your protests, you levelled at me.

Still, doesn't mean I hate you.
 
You have never once understood why I say what I say, Mongo...and I guess you never will.

I don't hate inexpensive basses or their owners...I hate kool aid drinking and internet forum hype and internet forum cliques.....

When you are on a esteemed and popular bass forum such as this, and on any given day 70% of the threads are in praise of bargain brand basses....well, that ANNOYS me....doesn't me I hate anything at all.

And YOU annoy me because you somehow insinuated that I NEED an expensive bass to play or sound good...with your Poor craftsman quote BS that despite your protests, you levelled at me.

Interesting, I never mentioned your name yet you responded with your usual nonsense.

Don't forget, your continued lying in that regard already got you banned from this baord.
 
A reality check is that low-end, inexpensive basses are WAY better than they were even a decade ago thanks to CNC technology, inexpensive electronics, etc. A $299 active Peavey BXP would have seemed like something out of Star Trek in 1976 when I bought my Alembic. I look at an inexpensive instrument as a way to get a decent instrument in the hands of another player or aspiring player, personally. It takes nothing away from great luthiers and companies like Fodera, Smith, Ritter, MTD, Elrick, Alembic, Roscoe or Conklin. It's really a Win-Win when you think about it. Why be negative about any fellow player's choice?
 
A reality check is that low-end, inexpensive basses are WAY better than they were even a decade ago thanks to CNC technology, inexpensive electronics, etc. A $299 active Peavey BXP would have seemed like something out of Star Trek in 1976 when I bought my Alembic. I look at an inexpensive instrument as a way to get a decent instrument in the hands of another player or aspiring player, personally. It takes nothing away from great luthiers and companies like Fodera, Smith, Ritter, MTD, Elrick, Alembic, Roscoe or Conklin. It's really a Win-Win when you think about it. Why be negative about any fellow player's choice?

Exactly.
 
To each his or her own but I can't see spending that kind of money on an electric bass. That's a really cool bass but it just seems ridiculously overpriced and made for rich people with nothing better to do with their money and posers. I'm sure the quality, finish and feel are top notch but you could get two really nice playing basses customized to your exact desires from a local luthier for that kind of money.

Personally I'm happy just playing my upgraded Fender Squire for people. If I had $8500 to blow on gear though I'd spend about $1500 on a Carvin AC40 and spend the rest on band stuff. A Hammond keyboard, and then some pro audio, wireless stuff and some more recording equipment.

Well, I personally am not rich, and would gladly play the $**** out of it.
 
Wow. Sorry folks. I didn't mean to inflame the thread. Just my two cents which might not even be worth two cents to most people :) I just have a couple of braggadocious friends with very expensive gear that sits in their living rooms and never gets played out. Perhaps in a moment of passion I stereotyped lovers of fine instruments who are also active musicians in with them. I apologize. It is a very nice bass. It deserves to be played by someone who loves it. It's just not for me.

If there is anything that unites most musicians I'd say that it appears to be that we're all pretty passionate about what we like.

Disclaimer: This post is not intended to insult, stereotype or disrespect less than passionate musicians. If you find yourself to be less than passionate, or maybe even a little indifferent to the thread or any of the previous posts then, by your very nature, you will probably just disregard this post anyway.
 
I can appreciate a fine instrument but I can't see the value in that particular bass for that price with what I see.

Then you shouldn't buy it. But realize that while cost is a concrete factor, value is in the eyes and hands of the beholder. So while the bass costs the same for you and I, the value can be completely different. I totally get why guys don't dig expensive basses - there are various reasons. But not everyone who plays an expensive bass is rich or a poseur (at least I don't think I'm one - I'll end up doing 100+ gigs this year). Some of us find value in an expensive instrument, and save money elsewhere in our lives. It is all about priorities, choices, and where you are in your life. I know guys who own Ferraris. I'd never own one - it doesn't have enough value to me for the price. But I get why they do and I say more power to them. It doesn't make my VW any less useful, and it doesn't make them better than me. They just have a more expensive car.
 
Would you spend that kind of money on an acoustic bass if you played it? Would it be worth it?
Absolutely! A student of mine bought Dennis Crouch's tour bass from the Allison Krause/Robert Plant tour. It's a carved Shen (Chinese) upright and he paid over 7K for it used. A nice, but not great, carved DB. That's normal....
 
Playing, not posing:

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Very cool! I like the first one the most.

That was 4th of July - we opened for the Bangles at a festival in Newport Beach. Was a fun gig.

Today was a little lower profile of a doubleheader. AM downbeat at a local farmer's market then an afternoon hit at a free show at a nursing home. Played the Fodera MGS at both. The seniors dug it - they were out of their wheelchairs and dancing :D
 
That was 4th of July - we opened for the Bangles at a festival in Newport Beach. Was a fun gig.

Today was a little lower profile of a doubleheader. AM downbeat at a local farmer's market then an afternoon hit at a free show at a nursing home. Played the Fodera MGS at both. The seniors dug it - they were out of their wheelchairs and dancing :D

That last one earned you a ton of Good Karma points!:)
 
That last one earned you a ton of Good Karma points!:)

I've done probably 100 or so of those gigs over the past few years. I have two different groups I play with - everyone donates their time. I *highly* recommend that anyone so inclined look for a local group near them that does shows, and if there isn't one, form a band. I found the group on CL, and the players are all over the map. Goes from touring pros all the way to fairly inexperienced. Mostly just need to show up and be willing to roll with the punches. The audiences are really appreciative even if the band is rough. The fact that someone actually shows up to perform for them is all that matters. Luckily this group has some sick players so today was a really fun hit.