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I'm getting too old for rock concerts

The last two concerts I went to (U2 in Dallas, Asia & Journey in Tulsa) were so loud, it was difficult to enjoy the music. On top of that, it made my tinnitus a bit worse. The common denominator was they were both in large arenas. So, I've decided that from now on, all concerts I attend will be in the smaller venues. There are a few in our area that are fantastic with great sound without having to crank the volume. Plus there are no bad seats in those places. I'm too old for that other s**t.
 
One of the things that we’ve been doing is looking at sites like Groupon for deals on tickets. Of course, they aren’t always going to have deals for bands that you like, but it’s worth a shot. I think we paid half what we would normally pay for the two concerts we went to this past weekend.

I agree that there’s a lot of hassle in going to concerts, but some of those hassles are not limited to arena/stadium shows with big name acts. I’ve seen fights, drunken acts of stupidity, smoking and drugs, and so on, and some of that happened in places like the Phoenix Theater in Petaluma, The Omni in Oakland (gone now), The Warfield in SF and The Stone in SF (also gone). I think I have a few more concerts in me, and I’ve been living vicariously through my soon to be stepson, who loves all these concerts we’ve been taking him to, so that helps.
 
I fondly remember attending my first rock concert in 1982 as a teenager.

Fast forward to this morning: A local radio station is giving away tickets to an upcoming McCartney show at a 13,000-seat regional arena. As much as I'm a huge fan of his, he'd have to pay me to attend.

Oh Lord have mercy! Never in 10 Million years would I go to something like that unless I won special VIP box seats with a free meet-and-greet after.
 
I'm 63 and have not had television since 1997. It means I really see no ads and have not for a long time. A funny thing happened. I found that a lot of the stuff that I really liked to do was stuff I really did not like to do all that much, but an apetite for the stuff had been nurtured in me.

Once I left that world, my life fell into "normalcy". Well, part of it is also that as you get older and have a bit of a "been there, done that" mentality and you're less impressed with the latest "shiny thing", life becomes both simpler and cheaper. Your needs and wants change dramatically.


Here is how bad it is: My wife and I got free tickets to a Seattle Sonics game about a decade or so ago (while they were still in Seattle). Our seats were at center court, three or four rows up from the court. We left at the end of the first quarter. And we only stayed that long because we felt like, gosh, since everybody would kill for the seats we had, it must have been something special. But it was just boring. And all we could think about was the crowd, the price of a beer, the hassle of getting in and out, so we just went for a walk in lower Queen Anne and stopped off at a nice Thai place for a meal - and went home for some
"real" fun.

Concerts are just not fun to us. Heck, a LOT of stuff isn't. It's why we moved from Seattle to a nice quiet farm where you can run around naked and nobody would be the wiser.

Totally agree with the highlighted part of this quote. Ready to pull the plug on my TV. Too many ads telling me what pharmaceuticals I must have to live "happy" as I age :rollno: Also the barrage of ads on network TV, meh.

It's great to live out on a quiet farm but at our age maybe not running around naked, things might get ugly :D But hey... maybe they have a "pill" for that!
 
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Not quite 47 and I love rock gigs no matter the venue size, but the last few years it seems the crowds are anemic from their cellphone addiction.

As someone said before: Rock n roll shouldn't be safe family fun. I wouldn't go to a brothel and wonder why it wasn't adequate for my kids. Drunk people are to be expected where revenue is generated through booze. Been to GnR and Kiss this year aside from smaller local gigs. No issues aside from and unorganized merch stand at GnR. More to come by fall and winter.
 
Too many ads telling me what pharmaceuticals I must have to live "happy" as I age :rollno:

It's not just the drug ads, but the endless litany of possible catastrophic side-effects, that gets under my skin.
But I think that's the point, to keep stoking the free-floating anxiety that "you are going to die." Mix these TV ads
with, say, endless news reports of possible global nuclear war, and it can be pretty de-stabling on the individual psyche.
Which is of course what the machine wants. Can't sell anything to the consumer who does not somehow feel deficient, after all....

As for the rest of this thread -- if you're too old for a rock concert, then you're too old too rock.
 
As for the rest of this thread -- if you're too old for a rock concert, then you're too old too rock.
Oh, I still love rock (see my post above). But I'd rather not have my hearing completely destroyed before I hit 60. Plus when the piano is distorting (as it was at the latest Journey show), that's just ridiculously loud. I've seen other shows at the same venue where the sound was great without being overbearing.
 
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As for those of you complaining about cigarette smoke -- 70's L.A. punk shows I attended were marked by "fans"
gobbing spit all over the performers. This went on until '81 or so, even past the point where it was a shameful cliche.
So what's a little smoke.
 
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I appear to be in the minority here - I'm 50 and still love going to concerts. Friday will be my 397th concert (yes, I keep track) and I have tickets for three more this year for a nice, round 400 shows. I'm not a fan of crowds and all the BS that goes along with them, or the high prices for some acts ($255 plus fees for McCartney next week), but my bad experiences at these shows can be counted on my fingers - maybe one hand.

Sorry, but a DVD at home is no substitute for seeing a band/artist live. They are very different experiences.
 
I'm not a fan of... the high prices for some acts ($255 plus fees for McCartney next week), but my bad experiences at these shows can be counted on my fingers - maybe one hand.

I do agree that ticket prices can be risible, particularly to someone as spoiled as myself (e.g., I saw John Lee Hooker from a front-of-stage table for $5, no drink minimum; the Rush 'Permanent Waves' tour from loge for $20; Richie Blackmore's Rainbow at The L.A. Forum on a front-row freebie, and so on).

But there are still good value shows to be had. I saw Silversun Pickups and Garbage a couple years ago from the front of stage on a $25 ticket; likewise bands such as Primal Scream and Liam Gallagher's Beady Eye, all from the foot of the stage for less than $35.
 
Iggy Pop last month at age 70.

God bless him.

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I was done with them by 32, when I saw my last Rush concert. The sound is usually nothing but booming bottom end and ear-piercing highs, sight lines obstructed by people who keep standing up, awful traffic, people who seem to have been raised by wolves and aren't fit to be out in public, etc. And just in general, I find crowds suffocating, so you add in the other cons and it's just not worth it to me.

I went to two more concerts after, only because my better half really wanted to see Madonna a couple of times. I hate to generalize, but it has to be said, with the demographic her shows attract and having WAY less of that chest-beating, alpha male aggressive thing going on, people seemed considerably better behaved and more friendly towards those around them on the whole than you're apt to see at a hard rock show. The atmosphere just felt considerably less threatening and more benevolent.

I remember seeing a Steven Wilson interview where he expressed his distaste for attending live concerts and finding crowds claustrophobic, and people in the comments saying he sounded joyless and antisocial, hypocritical for putting on shows but not wanting to attend them, etc., etc., pretty much the same way some people perceived Neil Peart. It seems like many just can't grasp the concept that a distaste for large crowds doesn't equate to a hatred of people and that joyful experiences can be found in places other than the middle of a mob.
 
OP- you're not alone.

Still don't let it sour you on live music.

What I hope for is an "audience" not a "crowd", and a high Audience to Crowd Ratio (a:c). The more I like the artist, the lower ratio I'll put up with.

A "crowd" is there because they've heard of a band or have one friend who dragged them and/or his other buddies to a band they've never heard before. They may be there looking for a night out to drink and wind up at a concert when they really want to be at a bar. Perhaps they wants to sing along with the one or two popular songs they've heard (usually getting the lyrics wrong) forcing themselves into a particular scene they don't even really want to be part of themselves.

An "audience" actually wants to LISTEN to the music and ENJOY the show. Drinking/chatting/carousing may be part of the experience, but an audience is psyched that there are others at the show who have discovered the same band and the band is their primary reason for leaving the house that evening. They are excited and energetic, and as fans of the artist(s) themselves they want others to enjoy it as much as they do. An audience will enjoy have a few drinks as well, but keeps it to a healthy buzz that is usually good for the energy of the show.

The bigger the band, the larger the venue, the lower the A:C ratio gets. My limit is around 10:1. If 10% of the people are part of the "Crowd" that's enough to ruin a show for me. I also find mid-week shows are better than weekend shows for the ratio.

There are a FEW major bands I'd risk putting up with a low A:C ratio for. If the Police reunited again. Maybe Radiohead. I went to Nine Inch Nails (but from a buddy of mine's box seats which isolated us from the "crowd" and was great but kind of weird for a band like NIN, too). Willie Nelson (at Willie's concerts, the crowd can be as much part of the show as Willie is and I kind of make peace with that going in).

Otherwise, there's a sweet spot for high A:C ratios in bands that have a following and are maybe just getting traction, but aren't totally on the radar and play at venues smaller than House of Blues. In Orlando, we have a venue called the Plaza Live that gets some up and coming acts and is usually a good place to see a show. I've seen John Butler Trio and Citizen Cope there- both had a good a:c ratios of maybe 30:1. Wilco usually is up there around 20:1. I haven't been to their shows, but would imagine bands like Sylvan Esso, Courtney Barnett, Car Seat Headrest, St. Vincent (I have been to a St. Vincent show and she was great) might be examples of bands in this strata.

In conclusion... ummm jeez. Did I overthink that or what? I am really procrastinating at work today.

Still liking this post. A:C ratio is pretty important.
 
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