I use Westone UM2 through a Shure PSM200. I son't see it mentioned very much. Should I upgrade the unit to a 400?
Chris P
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In-ears question
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I use Shure e5s. The Westones UM2 are great as well. Whatever you do make sure you get the duel drivers!!!!!!!
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These sound similar to UM2s but with even better isolation.. Infact Great isolation.. Nice extended deep but tight bass and highs are silky...
My Westone ES2s
They are Dual Drivers. I did not want or need the triple driver. If i were a vocalist i may have went for them. But these are great for gigging bass/ backup vocals..
Over the top for Ipod use , i have noticed things in recordings that are at higher bit rates that i never noticed before on an Ipod..
My Westone ES2s
They are Dual Drivers. I did not want or need the triple driver. If i were a vocalist i may have went for them. But these are great for gigging bass/ backup vocals..
Over the top for Ipod use , i have noticed things in recordings that are at higher bit rates that i never noticed before on an Ipod..
I was asking if anyone knew of any consumer wireless headphones that had low enough latency to use for a gig. I was hoping to not pay so much and not have such a large receiver pack. I have a SanDisk Sansa mp3 player with an FM tuner. I tried using that, but my transmitter would drift in frequency and I'd get a bunch of static.
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Shure makes a very nice transmitter /receiver pack.. and Carvin has a much lower priced one... You should not be getting latency with an FM or VHF reciever.. Latency = Time Delay right?
Radio waves travel at th espeed of light.. any latency that you are getting would be coming from somewhere else.. perhaps a A/D conversion?
Radio waves travel at th espeed of light.. any latency that you are getting would be coming from somewhere else.. perhaps a A/D conversion?
I was thinking about that set up or the PM50s by Rolls. Do you use external headphones or in ear? Do you ever have problems with system pops or feedback? I worry that a single high pitched feedback through some other monitor is going to blow my ear drums.
DANGER WILL ROBINSON! This is just asking for hearing damage. No matter how conservative you are about it, you'll end up turning the in-ears up louder than you should, trying to get them to keep up with the stage mix. If you absolutely MUST use only one of the two buds, put a high-quality earplug in the other ear so the stage volume doesn't overtake the IEM. The more preferable option, of course, is to use both IEMS with a good mix of the whole band plus some ambient mics.
Yes but does anybody here use the PSM200 unit as I do? I'm looking for comments on the unit not the buds etc. I have two receivers and the other night my main one cut out and stopped working. I think it was a defect in the plug in jack for the ear plugs as when I set up the reserve receiver all was well.
Feedback would be a help. Oh I have tried the Carvin unit but it had way to much hiss in the back ground. The next step up for Shure is quite a price hike.
Chris P
IEMs seem like a great idea. However, my concern is how to prevent damage to my hearing, both from excessive SPL, and from unexpected transients, like someone bumping into a microphone, or feedback. Are limiters typically integral to wireless transmitters, or do you have to buy a limiter of some kind in addition to the transmitter?
Thanks!
I use Ultimate Ears UE 7's, they have 3 drivers. They are made specifically for drummers and bassist. Mine have the ambient option. There are holes drilled into the ear bud that allows you to pull out the plug and allows you to hear the natural sound of the band, or you can plug the holes, and only hear what is coming from your ear monitor mix. As for ear protection. I use the Shure PS 600 which has a feature that will compress any sound that could damage your ear. The UE 7's cost about $1,000, but I think they are the best.
Here's what works for me. I'm stage right. My rig is to my right facing across the stage from righ to left. The rig is pretty much in my right ear, not too loud, but the other guys get plenty of bass from my rig. My in-ear is ONLY IN MY LEFT EAR. That way, I can hear my bass and get some stage volume for playing, and I can isolate my vocals in my left era so I don't have to "sing over" the stage volume. It's the best of both worlds. From my experience, I've found that the system doesn't really make too much difference. It's all in the buds. My back-up (really cheap) system sounded just as good as my really expensive system through good ear buds. "Good" is up to you.
I don't think anyone else has touched on this. Anyone else have thoughts? Anyone use ambient mics for the audience? Big stages vs. small?
I still don't use them live, but every time we practice, I use them. It cuts down on the volume a whole lot.
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We used two mics pointed at the audience, and we could dial them in individually. It worked very well, I thought.
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I'd pop the extra $$$$ for the PM351.. it has a neat feature that you can mix in a microphone.. either to sing through or to use as an ambient mic
I NEVER have problesm with feedback... before plugging/unplugging the sound guy kills all channels.
I play pretty high output gear.. we did move to a MXR DI+ for the bass send.. this then goes to the PM351..
It took some time to figure out the entire setup.. I'm super happy we took the time to go step by step... I keep it all on a Mike stand.. it sure beats carrying around gear or asking the sound guy to up/down band mix OR my personal levels.
We do not use high buck headphones or ear buds.. both are phillips and cost about $40 total
For $250 it's the saddest money I've spent.. having thousands of bucks of custom made cabinets, rack setup etc.. all collecting dust.
Coolest thing that I've been able to do is test singing - I can hear it - it's not in the band mix... when I"m up to par, we'll include me.
Tim
PM me if you have any further questions..
It was tough as heck to find good information on a reasonable setup.
It was tough as heck to find good information on a reasonable setup.
Another great wireless trans/Recv set is the Galaxy Audio AS-1000 setup (they have a bundled pack of 4 recievers available) that we are very happy with and the price is good. if you can find it on sale it is an exceptional value.
How is the sound quality and the backround hiss? All the reviews online say they are crappy. chris p
I haven't read the replies from others yet but as a bass player who rehearses with In Ears and plays live with In Ears I can recommend a rackmounted Shure PSM series system, a set of Westone In Ears and an AP201K ambient kit.
The PSM system is easy to operate and is reliable.
The Westones have a far better bass response (for my ears) than the E2's and E3's I threw in the bin. The Westone's were half the price, twice the value and they don't irritate my ear canal. My audioligist was impressed with them too.
The Ambient kit is essential if you want to know what's going on with the audience. It's also essentail if your 'ratbag' guitarist wants to let you know mid song that the blonde with the pokey out bits is staring directly at you and mouthing the words; "your arse is mine tonight big boy".
The PSM system is easy to operate and is reliable.
The Westones have a far better bass response (for my ears) than the E2's and E3's I threw in the bin. The Westone's were half the price, twice the value and they don't irritate my ear canal. My audioligist was impressed with them too.
The Ambient kit is essential if you want to know what's going on with the audience. It's also essentail if your 'ratbag' guitarist wants to let you know mid song that the blonde with the pokey out bits is staring directly at you and mouthing the words; "your arse is mine tonight big boy".
Hey Chris, I see you are asking about the PSM 200.
Mine works just fine and I have had the pleasure of using the PSM200 and the more expensive PSM700 system.
At first my PSM200 had some hiss in it and sounded a bit thin. My sound tech removed the hiss from the signal and I bought decent buds. Now I have a rich clean bass sound comeing through my PSM200. If you don't have a sound tech and a quality PA system, then a PSM600 has a pr-amp feature that can help you to improve any signal.
Use an ambient kit instead of one trying to use one ear bud.
Mine works just fine and I have had the pleasure of using the PSM200 and the more expensive PSM700 system.
At first my PSM200 had some hiss in it and sounded a bit thin. My sound tech removed the hiss from the signal and I bought decent buds. Now I have a rich clean bass sound comeing through my PSM200. If you don't have a sound tech and a quality PA system, then a PSM600 has a pr-amp feature that can help you to improve any signal.
Use an ambient kit instead of one trying to use one ear bud.
Finally somebody actually answered my question about the psm200. Thank you. I'm having some scratchy pot issues right now and I too use westone buds. I go back and fourth between 1 and 2 in. The reason I use only 1 sometimes is because with 2 in my voice sounds bad or rather muffled. Due to the sealed ear cavilty syndrome. Everthying else sounds fine so it is my work around.
What exactly is the or an ambient kit? Oh I get a dedicated mix from foh into one channel on the 200 and a line in from my amp into the other.
Chris P.
