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In-ears question

#41
MNAirHead said:
Sorry for the delay.

I'd pop the extra $$$$ for the PM351.. it has a neat feature that you can mix in a microphone.. either to sing through or to use as an ambient mic

I NEVER have problesm with feedback... before plugging/unplugging the sound guy kills all channels.

I play pretty high output gear.. we did move to a MXR DI+ for the bass send.. this then goes to the PM351..

It took some time to figure out the entire setup.. I'm super happy we took the time to go step by step... I keep it all on a Mike stand.. it sure beats carrying around gear or asking the sound guy to up/down band mix OR my personal levels.

We do not use high buck headphones or ear buds.. both are phillips and cost about $40 total

For $250 it's the saddest money I've spent.. having thousands of bucks of custom made cabinets, rack setup etc.. all collecting dust.

Coolest thing that I've been able to do is test singing - I can hear it - it's not in the band mix... when I"m up to par, we'll include me.

Tim
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I use the Rolls PM351 and it's definitely the best piece of kit I own. No more ringing in the ears after rehearsal/gigs, I can hear everything I want to hear perfectly and I can dial out the stuff I don't want to hear. We use a Peavey mixer with 4 aux outs so we each have our own monitor mix, which makes a big difference too.
 
#42
I recently got a question from someone who stumbled across this thread, so it I wanted to add something kinda funny. The ear buds I use are a bit tight. I started trying to use a water-based lube like KY Jelly to make the ear-intrusion less uncomfortable.

We had a gig last summer at a nudist resort, which was the place that we first tried out the IEMs. My girlfriend helped me pack up, and it was a bit embarrasing trying to explain to her why I needed a tube of KY Jelly at the nudist resort gig. "No, really baby, it's for my earplugs!" "Uh huh, right... for your ears..."

She's actually much cooler then that about it and didn't care - mostly 'cause she knows I'm thoroughly whipped, and wouldn't ever do anything to betray her.

chunkylover73 said:
No more ringing in the ears after rehearsal/gigs, I can hear everything I want to hear perfectly and I can dial out the stuff I don't want to hear.
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This fact totally makes it worth the loss in tone for me.

BTW, I now just use spit. Seems to work better, just like in some... eh... other situations!
 
#43
An ambient kit (Shure AP201K) is a tiny mic and volume control that connects to the PSM200 body pack receiver - without modification as it is made by Shure specifically for use with PSM200 systems. When using In Ears with good ear buds you become isolated from the noise on stage and the noise from the audience. In other words you don't get those ambient sounds that make playing live all that more exciting. The ambient kit picks up those sounds so you are no longer isolated. It's like having a wireless microphone strapped to you. The kit is available for about USD$106 on eBay (for US only clients - strictly no postage overseas) and are about AU$300 in Australia from authorised Shure retail outlets (ripped off again by middle men). Well worth it and in the future these kits will most likely come automatically with every PSM200 unit.
 
#45
Hilton Marsh said:
An ambient kit (Shure AP201K) is a tiny mic and volume control that connects to the PSM200 body pack receiver - without modification as it is made by Shure specifically for use with PSM200 systems. When using In Ears with good ear buds you become isolated from the noise on stage and the noise from the audience. In other words you don't get those ambient sounds that make playing live all that more exciting. The ambient kit picks up those sounds so you are no longer isolated. It's like having a wireless microphone strapped to you. The kit is available for about USD$106 on eBay (for US only clients - strictly no postage overseas) and are about AU$300 in Australia from authorised Shure retail outlets (ripped off again by middle men). Well worth it and in the future these kits will most likely come automatically with every PSM200 unit.
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Thanks for the tip here. I acryally found a video on Youtube about the PSM200 and it mentioned using the 1/4" in for external mikes or instruments as well.

What I did recently tha tmade a world of difference was I sent my foh monitor mix and my bass send first into a nice alesisis 6 channel mixer that has effects built in. very portable and i added some reverb to the foh monitor mix. At the same time I tried a larger size bud. wow what a difference, the quality went up, the isolationd was reduced a lot and the reverb opened it all up. Now I'm sore if it was the addition of the sonic quality of the mixer or the larger buds that made the bit difference so I will experinent so more.

Chris P.
 
#48
robbotbass said:
We use to use an old AT mic for crowd noise, but I didn't have it to high in my mix I preferred to feel and see the crowd rather then hear them. Plus playing in wyoming lots of white people who try to clap and can't keep the beat throw me off.
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I do the same thing using an old AT condenser mic. It;s an old gooseneck mic (like what is seen on a podium). Using a universal spring clip mic holder, we can put it by the sound console to we hear what the FOH hears in a very general sense. Not so we can hear his mix, but it gives us enough audience response. Plus it doubles to let our ears get to keep us cued for score updates and babe alerts. These old used podium mics are super sensitive and pick up quite a bit of sound.
 

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