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Instrument cable as speaker cable LOW watt?

This is probably a question better suited for a guitar forum but at what wattage/length does it become unsafe to use an instrument cable as a speaker cable? I'm asking because I want to add a speaker out to my Danelectro Honeytone amp to connect it to some bigger speakers and the easiest way is to add a pair of jacks on the back one speaker out and one speaker in, and because of the close proximity it would be easier to just use one of my short pedal cables then to build a speaker cable. It only puts out about 1.5 watts into 8 ohms.


why risk it?
A speaker cable is dead easy to build if you don't want to buy one.

^^^ that would be my standard answer for something like that.
But if your amp is only 1.5W I'm pretty sure you'll be ok ;)
 
There are literally 9 guitar shops within a few miles of you. If you lived on THE MOON and speaker cable cost NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS we would have something to talk about. But you live in Oregon and there is a <$10 speaker cable closer to yoh than the distance my brother can drive a golf ball. Granted, that boy can crush a golf ball.

Why are we even talking about this again?
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I thought I was cheap and lazy.
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This ^^^
 
If you walked into a coffee shop with your low watt rig and Willey Nelson, Elton John, Buddy Guy, or (insert other iconic musician here) was there, and all you had was that, then sure. Go for it. High risk potential, but high reward potential as well. Anything else is high risk, low reward.
 
pro audio guy: always, always, always use the proper cable. if you don't have the proper cable: use what you've got to get by. and then before you do that again: get the proper cable so that you can always, always, always use the proper cable!

i've never had a problem using the wrong cable, but = lucky!

It will work- make sound.
Butter to maKe a cheap speaker cable. You can use an old lamp cord. Or buy a short speaker cord- having a spare is a benefit.

I ran a 200w amp using an instrument cable for 20 years before I learned that it could damage the amp. I say, why risk anything. It's not going to cost but a few bucks more. Btw, After 35 years, I still have the amp.

why risk it?
A speaker cable is dead easy to build if you don't want to buy one.

^^^ that would be my standard answer for something like that.
But if your amp is only 1.5W I'm pretty sure you'll be ok ;)


50 years ago many Bassman's & Bandmaster's were connected from head to cabinet using guitar cords, most people did not know any better. I wouldn't do it now.

A coaxial cable is a capacitor. Might help mute the dambid tweeter, but could also mute the amp... permanently.

If you walked into a coffee shop with your low watt rig and Willey Nelson, Elton John, Buddy Guy, or (insert other iconic musician here) was there, and all you had was that, then sure. Go for it. High risk potential, but high reward potential as well. Anything else is high risk, low reward.

Two plugs + one foot of 16 gauge lamp cord + soldering iron + 10 minutes = a cable you can trust for this job.

Otto

What, is this Mount Everest?

Do it "because it is there," or "because you can?"

If you truly can't afford the correct cable, PM me and I'll send you one of the 7000 or so I have around here. ;)

This. vvvvvv
I'll make up some short speaker cables since I will need them when I do the same mod to an old 25 watt combo bass amp I have,
 
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I've only been in the MI game for a year now. 6 months of that mostly off from anything hands on due to health issues. One of my first and best purchases was done up front, before i even had a real cab. That was an assortment of speakon, XLR, 1/4" male and female connectors and a handful of adapters, plus probably a few others, all placed in a divided plastic storage dealeo. MCM or PE. Also an assortment of gauges and count of round electrical cable from Home Boy Depot. I'm never tempted to use the wrong thing. I highly recommend this. It saves money on shipping and overpriced local stuff. Doesn't mean I'm not lazy. Last time I got into the assortment was for a pair of speakon->1/4" cables for my PA. So I ordered a free shipping 30 ft Hosa speaker cable from sweetwater, had it in two days like always, snipped it in half and screwed on the speakons I had. Laziness in not fully building my own saved me 30 ft of cable (maybe $15), and having $4 speakons ready to go saved me from using more expensive had I ordered those from sweetwater. End result, very high quality cables I needed costing <$20 each, just over a buck a foot. I hate soldering. I did way too much in a past life and it's a hassle getting everything out.
 
Yes definitely, I've had a few honeytones that I've let the magic smoke out of, one by putting 18 volts in to it (the op-amp is rated for 18 but the other components are only rated for 15, they run beautifully on 12 and the extra headroom helps with clean tones) and another by wiring in a second 8 ohm speaker for a 4 ohm load. So I know a little about what the HT can and can't do:)

Not using the Headphone jack, I'm going to clip the wire going to the speaker and wire a jack unto the ends so that I have a speaker out and a speaker in so I can use the amp to power a separate speaker or us a different amp with the HT's speaker (unlikely)


It's not a matter of not wanting to go buy a speaker cable it's the fact that I need literally a 3" cable and nobody makes them that short, combined with it only being 1.5 watts maximum, also if you read the thread you would of seen that I said I would be making some short speaker cables.

Sounds like you would be better served, perhaps, by installing a single self-shorting female 1/4" jack. One hole, one jack, operates as it did before mod until you plug a spkr cable and load into said jack. Then it disconnects internal spkr and routes power to external load. Only cable needed is the one running to your spkr cabinet.
 
adding a switched 1/4 inch output
would be cool so when you plug in a external cab the internal speaker would be bypassed

Sounds like you would be better served, perhaps, by installing a single self-shorting female 1/4" jack. One hole, one jack, operates as it did before mod until you plug a spkr cable and load into said jack. Then it disconnects internal spkr and routes power to external load. Only cable needed is the one running to your spkr cabinet.
That's essentially what I'm doing with the two jacks but with two jacks I can use the amp section by itself and and the speaker by itself, while unlikely it's something that could be useful in the future like if I build a Ruby or Little Gem.
 
Had a 50w PA amp that I tried this to a 8 ohm 115 out of a combo. Then, I briefly had an on-fire 50w PA amp. Then, I had a formerly on-fire 50w PA amp. Then the electronics recycler had a slagged 50w PA amp.

It might have been the amp, or the power cord, or the impedance, but it wasn't. It was the cable.

^^^Left out the most exciting step! :D
 

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