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I take it none of you remember the heyday of Harmony Central before it got blown up?

I was there.

I've been on gear forums for over 20 years. It's still the same cranks with rose colored glasses whining about how today's music and gear isn't anything compared to the utopian days of yore. TGP and TalkBass pretty much complain about the same things too. Anyone who doesn't play a neck the size of a tree trunk with the heaviest strings possible and a full stack isn't a real man. Solid state can never replace real tubes. Pedals are for posers. Digital can never replace analog. Short scales are for girls and kids. You get the point.

Between the BS, I've learned a lot on gear forums and made some lifelong friends.
 
I was there.

I've been on gear forums for over 20 years. It's still the same cranks with rose colored glasses whining about how today's music and gear isn't anything compared to the utopian days of yore. TGP and TalkBass pretty much complain about the same things too. Anyone who doesn't play a neck the size of a tree trunk with the heaviest strings possible and a full stack isn't a real man. Solid state can never replace real tubes. Pedals are for posers. Digital can never replace analog. Short scales are for girls and kids. You get the point.

Between the BS, I've learned a lot on gear forums and made some lifelong friends.
I love this!
 
I remember newsgroups from my pro wrestling fandom, and while I did play bass back then, too, I didn’t care about gear as a subject (couldn’t afford any of it anyway in my early 20s). People who think the internet is an unregulated cesspool should’ve seen it back then.
 
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I'm pretty sure this forum would be just as disgusting as other music forums that I've seen, given less moderation. Just a feeling l have.

I take it none of you remember the heyday of Harmony Central before it got blown up?
Or the Lakland forum from the late 90's?
 
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TalkBass is one of the best, because there's a lot less egotism among bassists than among guitarists.

Certainly the cleanest, most informative forum with the least amount of chest thumping I've ever been involved with. Just a few cranky pants that get irritated and have a need to let everybody know about it instead of just moving on. And if that if worst part of it, it's a pretty good play to hang.
 
IMO....

Bass forums have a higher ratio of players that actually play with other players. I find the answers are more generally more practical. Sometimes I find the practicality gets in the way of creativity.

Guitar forums have a higher ratio of players that play by themselves. I find this makes them a bit of an echo chamber as they all repeat the same things they read online and I find a lot of the advice disconnected from reality.

Guitar forums tend to be more focused on guitar based music, whereas there's a bit more diversity here because bass crosses into more genres.

I have limited experience with drum forums, however being the band's gearhead I asked a bunch of technical questions to help my non-gearhead drummer and got very good answers.

If there's a general complaint I have about gear forums its that 20 years ago there was a lot more arguing and experimentation that's absent now. It feels like sometime around 2010 everyone decided they knew everything they needed to know and things have kinda stagnated.

I figure some of that is due to the younger crowd moving to social media, and some of it is due to my preferred styles (rock/metal) moving out of the mainstream (therefore attracting less traffic), and some is due to the digitization of entire rigs.
 
As a bassist who also plays guitar, I’ve always found TDPRI, jazzguitar.be, and offsetguitars.com to be super supportive and helpful communities. There are definitely some spicy notes from time to time, but I think that will happen anywhere people are passionate about their craft.

That said, having just had a tense call with my parents, I am very appreciative that politics rarely enter the chats here.
 
The combo organ group that I own and moderate (along with one other member) is the most civil, friendly group I've ever been on (combo-organ groups.io Group). But the amount of activity is only a fraction of a percent of what you see at Talkbass or other similar forums (we only average about 150 posts per MONTH). We have a lot of members (1,301 as of right now), but only a handful of regulars and another handful of occasional posters. Newbies are never criticized or belittled in any way, there's almost never any snarkiness, but again, it's a small group, most of whom have been members for many years and know each other well. Combo organs represent a very tiny slice of the vintage instrument subculture, so I guess that's pretty much what you'd expect - you can't afford to alienate the 20 or 30 people in the whole world that might be able to help you at some point in the future!

Aside, from that, I've also found TDPRI to be very helpful and friendly, but they don't seem to attract the same sort of guitarists that you'd find on some of the other, more contentious forums (I mean, after all, Telecasters are only played by laid-back C&W guys, right?)
 
Forums also have seasons.

One tech forum I used to frequent had the single best community spirit I’ve ever had the pleasure of participating in. And I go back to the days of the text based dialup (i.e. pre Internet) BBS sites when software like FidoNet, RBBS, and Synchronet BBS hosting was the state of the art.

This particular forum achieved an exceptional camaraderie with virtually zero moderation. I’ve never seen anything online that approached its level of common courtesy and social grace. Everyone, with the inevitable few exceptions, parked their egos at the door during the discussions. It was a truly good place to hang, share acquired wisdom, learn, and debate.

I gradually drifted out of it as my career and personal life shifted away from computer technology even though I still maintained my membership. However, the last time I dropped by after a few years hiatus, I was surprised to see the place felt like a ghost town. The regular cadre of about a hundred or so very active members, and maybe twice as many occasional contributors, had largely evaporated. And the topic board activity and the depth of the discussions on them reflected that.

There were a few names I still recognized from the halcyon years. But even they weren’t as active anymore - and the newer generation members seemed to be less interested in long form online discussions and more into short tweet type posts. Which doesn’t lend itself that well to in depth technical discussions.

Sad to see how it’s faded away to what it is now. But so it goes. As one person put it: Online communities tend to be like summer romances. But sometimes those summer romances were the best ones of all.

Yeah. Sounds about right. :)
Man,that sounds EXACTLY like my recollection of the early days I spent with rec.audio.pro in the usenet era. Filled mostly with seriously knowledgeable cats more than willing to share their expertise, and the odd knucklehead who got shut down instantly. I made the mistake of revisiting the place fairly recently. Really sad. A perfect mirror for where we've degenerated to as a society.
 
TB is a great place for us bass players ! I also used to be member of a chromatic harmonica forum, it was filled with great people and the spirit there was always kind. Too bad it was closed a few years ago, I miss it a little...
Which one? That rings a bell, too. Can't recall the name of the forum. A lot of good people, but if I recall correctly the owner had a bit of an "Amway" type of sales angle...?
 
As a bassist who also plays guitar, I’ve always found TDPRI, jazzguitar.be, and offsetguitars.com to be super supportive and helpful communities. There are definitely some spicy notes from time to time, but I think that will happen anywhere people are passionate about their craft.

That said, having just had a tense call with my parents, I am very appreciative that politics rarely enter the chats here.
Been there!!
 
I won't join FB or Twit or any of the other social media platforms, they're just frankly too mean and misinformed.

I do enjoy TB and the forum at The Alembic Club, primarily as the education and benefit of experience I can glean for myself is very broad and helpful. Both are pretty civilized, especially at the AC as we all act as if we were in the Wickershams' living room, that's the respect we have for them (If you've never owned an Alembic and then had contact with them, you have NO IDEA what wonderful and generous people they are.).

And I hope I can offer some lived advice and experience from my days strapped in.