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Interesting take on Tool..

I think in some ways there's a parallel to be drawn between Tool's music and Bob Dylan's lyrics.

In either case, because of the depth that does exist, their fans seem to over analyze things to the point that they give the band credit for things that don't.
 
It cracks me up how "into it" Tool fans get. I keep trying to like them, I can't get through an entire album I get far too bored. I don't know if making all the songs sound the same is some concept they were going for, but it doesn't do it for me. I think Tool is the most overrated band ever.

I'm with you on this. I really dug Tool up to the point that they lost Paul D'amour (he wrote about half of Aenima, but left before recording the album). I guess I suffer from Tool-fan burnout. They are a good band, but it's hard to not allow their somewhat meathead fanbase ruin it for me. I've seen them twice - once when they were supporting Undertow, and it was fantastic; small show, good performance, respectful and intelligent audience. The second time I saw them, I went to see Meshuggah, who was opening. Tool was, quite frankly, boring. The music and visuals seemed trite and uninspired, there were too many people, and I couldn't shake the feeling that many in the crowd weren't the sharpest tool in the shed (it didn't help that Manyard managed to get the entire audience of 15,000 to follow along in a chant saying, "Think for yourself. Question authority.")

Funny that many think that Tool are the most interesting and intelligent group of musicians making music today. Sure, they are good, but hardly what I would call innovative and groundbreaking. Putting music to some sort of numerical sequence is nothing new - heck, I know of bands who have made music based on fractals, bands who have invented their own language of notation and rhythm, and bands who have explored scales beyond the standard 12 tone. No one seems to give a rat's ass about these bands - probably because the music is TOO interesting and groundbreaking, and is therefore unpalatable to the masses. Tool just so happens to be able to package a few odd time signatures in a listener friendly, dropped D, mosh-worthy package, and people come out in droves calling them geniuses.

Incidentally, Paul D'Amour's post-Tool projects (Lusk, Feersum Enjinn, etc.) are totally awesome.
 
Of interesting note: Isn't it a bit odd that when people stack Tool songs on top of each other, and everything lines up, people call them geniuses; yet when the same thing happens for Nickelback songs, people call them formulaic hacks?

i call it useless... lol

i buy a record to listen to it, not to do math equations or to play puzzles... haveing an 11 minute track of just noise is a waste of money to me.... if a sound should be in a song, it should be in the song... i shouldnt need to own a mixing program to listen to it the way it was intended
 
i call it useless... lol

i buy a record to listen to it, not to do math equations or to play puzzles... haveing an 11 minute track of just noise is a waste of money to me.... if a sound should be in a song, it should be in the song... i shouldnt need to own a mixing program to listen to it the way it was intended

How about 12 minutes? "Less Than You Think" off Wilco's "A Ghost Is Born" album has a 3 minute song and then the rest of the 15 minute track is droning noise. Supposedly to convey what Jeff Tweedy's migraines sound like to him.
 
i call it useless... lol

i buy a record to listen to it, not to do math equations or to play puzzles... haveing an 11 minute track of just noise is a waste of money to me.... if a sound should be in a song, it should be in the song... i shouldnt need to own a mixing program to listen to it the way it was intended

Wiser words have seldom been spoken, my friend