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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Snakeman1066, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:15 AM.

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    Do you think the advantage of moving the pickups around outweighs the practicality of having mass to create sustain and tone.

    I would love to try it...would also be very cool if you could swap out pick up styles...
  2. Bass V

    Bass V

    Dec 11, 2008
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    depending on various factors it could have sufficient mass to produce good sustain and tone. imo it all starts with the neck and if it's great then the join is the next crucial point, after that it can go any which way pro or con. if Harmos could produce a very toneful and high sustain steel guitar out of a tinker toy concept then this bass idea should be able to do the same.
  3. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
  4. I do...& I agree, I would love to try it. P/U placement, IME, has a far greater influence on overall sound than mass of body does.

    This is VERY intriguing. Thanks for posting
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  5. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Pickup placement every time. Way more important to me.
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  6. OUCH! I just looked, this is VERY expensive!!

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  7. RyanOh

    RyanOh Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Not me, but this reminds me of the 80's Westone Rail
  8. jmlee

    jmlee Catgut? Not funny. Supporting Member

    Jun 16, 2005
    Halifax, Nova Scotia
    The old Gibson Grabber had a single pickup you could slide back and forth. I don't think it really revolutionized anything.

  9. zubrycky


    Aug 22, 2011
    That's a very interesting thread. Thanks!

    My gut feeling tells me that pickup placement is more important than the instrument mass. Besides that, pickup placement does affect the tone because it also determines the space available for the fingers of the plucking hand.
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  10. soundsupport1


    Aug 17, 2017
    best implementation of this concept that I've seen:

    He does use it, too: it's on the David Gilmour live in Pompeii DVD, on (I think) Run Like Hell.

  11. LT131


    Jan 25, 2015
    Deep South
    Pick up placement is key. If your instrument is properly designed the PU's should be in the right place to start. I don't see moveable PU's as a good tone control. If it were there would already be successful designs in circulation. I deem it just another gimmick.
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  12. I like the idea of sliding pickups. The tonal possibilities are at their maximum. The only downside is the appearance. The channel needed makes an otherwise beautiful instrument look like a test mule. It would be a novel idea to have a lever similar to a whammy bar attached to the pickup enabling it to move while performing, sort of like a built in wah. Has that been done yet?
  13. teh-slb


    Sep 21, 2018
    More parts that move means that I would break the poor thing quicker :(
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  14. Ross W. Lovell

    Ross W. Lovell

    Oct 31, 2015

    Didn't Gibson try this in the Ripper? Bass?
  15. LkS


    Oct 30, 2013
    EU, Slovakia
    I'm just gonna go ahead and say no. An answer to a question no one is asking. It has been tried before and no one picked it up for real.
  16. JRA

    JRA my words = opinion Supporting Member

    yes, of course. :) idea vs. myth. :D
  17. 40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    Yes. Sold close to 6000 of them before they ceased production. But it got tripped up by two design issues. First, the rails were basically plastic on plastic and they could distort, bind, or break over time. Second, it was primarily marketed to the hard rockin’ crowd who tended to subject it to rougher handling than its design could endure long-term.
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  18. DrThumpenstein

    DrThumpenstein Supporting Member

    Feb 8, 2015
    St Louis, MO
    I have a Grabber with a movable pickup. Position definitely affects tone, although I play it with it all the way toward the neck 90% of the time. Still works great; bought it new in 1983.

    That Norton looks really sweet, though.
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  19. As per the post from @soundsupport1 Guy Pratt asked the question and Warwick answered.

  20. Hurricane Jimmie

    Hurricane Jimmie Supporting Member

    So Anyway, wouldn't a PU Blend knob do pretty much the same thing?

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