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Interviewing Bassists Stories part 2

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As a young college lad and self-motivated writer, I want to thank you for your anecdotes. I can't help but smirk while running your stories in my mind, similar to the one on one conversations with a poignant uncle at the post-Thanksgiving festivity. Any advice for a young'n like myself?
 
As a young college lad and self-motivated writer, I want to thank you for your anecdotes. I can't help but smirk while running your stories in my mind, similar to the one on one conversations with a poignant uncle at the post-Thanksgiving festivity. Any advice for a young'n like myself?
Write, write, write, and write some more.

Don't waste even a second on forums full of wannabes, because they'll give you terrible advice, and they're all jealous of successful writers.

Get your work in front of professional writers or editors as soon as possible, and listen to what they have to say.

Most of all, write for someone. Write with a particular person in mind, as though you're speaking directly to him or her, and never write anything that isn't genuine.

And buy the collected poems of Stephen Crane. Worth more than 2000 other books combined.
 
Hi Tom,

I recently bought "In Cold Sweat" for my plane ride down to Houston on a business trip. All I've got left is the Scott Thunes interview. It's a great book, and makes me look even more forward to "Ghosts".

Just curious, since I don't know how book sales work: Do you get any indication on how something like "Cold Sweat" is selling? Just wondering if you're able to tell how many more sales you received since this thread started.
 
Hi Tom,

I recently bought "In Cold Sweat" for my plane ride down to Houston on a business trip. All I've got left is the Scott Thunes interview. It's a great book, and makes me look even more forward to "Ghosts".

Just curious, since I don't know how book sales work: Do you get any indication on how something like "Cold Sweat" is selling? Just wondering if you're able to tell how many more sales you received since this thread started.
Thanks for your support. I'm glad you like the book.

I could look up the numbers of my sales, but I don't. For my own peace of mind, I now simply publish the work and then it lives or dies. In the case of Ghosts and Ballyhoo, I'm going to make an all-out effort by hiring an independent publicist, and I'm going to put up a Web site and Facebook account--the works. So I expect sales of all my books to tick upwards somewhat.

Tell what, though: Eleven years later, In Cold Sweat is still in print. Not many authors can say that.
 
Tom! Where'd you go buddy?
Still here. Waiting for the editor to finish editing; waiting for the publisher to make up his mind about certain issues; waiting for a big bassist to tell me whether or not he's going to give me a blurb; and waiting for a final photo to arrive.

This was another reason I didn't want to do another nonfiction book: You have to rely on others, and unless you're a powerhouse like Stephen King who everybody wants to please, people take their sweet time. It's just the nature of the beast. It's not in my nature to crack the whip, so all I can do is wait and hope for the best, gently reminding people every now and then that they haven't fulfilled their commitment. It's happened with every book I've written.

Since you-all twisted my arm into doing this, you get to wait on pins and needles the way I do!
 
Just post the slackers name and email. I'm sure the membership can come up with a few hundred email reminders.
This is just the way the Industry functions. It's why I told you @#$%ers that I didn't want to do this!

I have a trick up my sleeve to light a fire under various slackers, though. I'm letting more and more people know that I've crossed the Rubicon in terms of how little I care what people think of me. If I don't get answers soon, I have a nuclear option I'm going to threaten.

Should be fun.
 
DO let us know what transpires, with all the lurid details. We've come too far together to miss out on this part. (From a lurker who is eagerly awaiting the finished product)
 
You know Tom, I don't know if you're a Rush fan, but when I listened through their latest album the song "Wish Them Well" made me think of this whole thread. The song is basically about letting go of the grudges and such. As with so many Rush songs over the years it just seemed to have perfect timing and make a connection:
 
You know Tom, I don't know if you're a Rush fan, but when I listened through their latest album the song "Wish Them Well" made me think of this whole thread. The song is basically about letting go of the grudges and such. As with so many Rush songs over the years it just seemed to have perfect timing and make a connection:

"Even if you’re lucky enough to find your soul mate, it doesn’t mean that both of you will be ready for each other at the time." -- my friend Lola
 
I don't think hounding the "slackers" will do any good, and may make things worse. These are people with the power to say "screw you", and shelve the whole thing if bugged too much.
Ding-ding-ding-ding!

This excerpt from Ghosts and Ballyhoo explains that yes, people will pull the plug on everything and sacrifice the very success of their own publication or publishing house just for the pleasure they get in controlling and/or punishing you. As a writer, I'm utterly powerless. This is why I've decided that after this book is published, I'm going to strictly self-publish e-books and print-on-demand hard copies of my novels. I've had it with this.

I'm going to pay for a giant publicity blitz for Ghosts in order to get some momentum. When you read it, you'll see that it has mass-market appeal. Since it deals with fate, reincarnation, destiny, the possibility of life after death, and my near-death experience (don't all memoirs of music journalists?) I'm fairly sure I can get an interview on Coast to Coast, especially since George Noory is a music fan and I'm a good, funny interview subject.

This is my last hurrah in traditional publishing. I wish I could tell you the behind-the-scenes struggle that's taking place right now, but it would lead to the plug being pulled. That would actually be a blessing, because then I could self-publish, but I signed a contract, so I'm obliged to go through with it.

But let me tell every aspiring writer here: There is no such thing as two-way loyalty in the publishing industry. There is no such thing as building up a reservoir of good will. With every book you publish, you're a newbie all over again, with no respect shown you and no account taken of your suggestions, desires, and input. You're entirely a slave, which is why the big authors such as Stephen King and Anne Rice negotiate insane contracts with several-million dollar advances and the demand that their manuscripts not be edited. It's their way of putting the screws to the publishers for treating them like dirt for so long.

The industry is dysfunctional from top to bottom, which is why it's dying. I'll be extremely glad to say goodbye to it.

The Day I Should’ve Resigned

I wrote a long letter to the editor, complaining about our treatment of Anne Kadrovich, as well as the killing of other articles. I could understand killing articles from one’s predecessor--a lie on my part; I had to try and communicate on this man’s primitive level--but I simply could not fathom how a publication could survive if it continually did this to people who’d given up valuable time and had consented in good faith to sitting down with me. I mentioned all the other sorts of bassists we’d covered in the past, insisting that this had given the magazine a broader appeal. The editor sent me a letter in response.

Tom:
Thanks for the letter. I can understand your disappointment about the Kadrovich story, but the article I saw did not offer anything I consider valuable for readers. Yes, we’ve covered street musicians, circus musicians, etc.--players whose positions are either unique or who hold interesting bass jobs that other players might aspire to, (Though I can’t say that all of the stories you might be referring to are ones I would have printed.) In the case of Anne Kadrovich, apart from what gear she uses, there was nothing in the story that indicated what kind of player she is, and there was nothing in her experience that I could see that would be instructive for other players. So my decision not to print it stands.

As for [withheld], it remains my prerogative to publish submitted stories in the form I think best serves readers. That’s my job as editor. As a freelancer myself I feel I bring passion to my subjects, but once I put a story in the mail it ceases to be mine. Call it zen mercenary if you like, but I can’t imagine surviving as a writer any other way. I feel the same way when I play a recording session too (as do any of the actually successful studio players I know). You play your best, but once the signal goes into the board it’s out of your hands.

If I sound a bit inflexible on this, so be it. It’s my duty to pull the various pieces together to make this magazine a coherent whole, and I’m prepared to take whatever praise or blame comes my way as a result of my decisions. I can promise you that those decisions will be based on what I feel is best for the magazine and the readers.

The fact remains that you are a really, really good writer, and I fear trying to fit what you want to do into Bass Player’s narrow format may be confining. Nonetheless I’d like for you to keep writing for us if you can accept these constraints. To that end it’s important we know where each other stands, so let’s keep talking.

Best,
[withheld].


What I want readers of this memoir to understand is that he was absolutely right, and I was wrong. This letter told me in plain English that his control was more important than the actual content of the magazine; he was absolutely unreachable; and he didn’t care about the success of the publication, its reputation, or the feelings of the artists we interviewed. He was also indifferent to whether I stayed or left.

I should’ve resigned on the spot and saved myself the next five years of idiotic rage and the damage it did to me physically and mentally. I was utterly wrong in not taking him at his word when he told me straight out that my services were no longer needed. He explained the terms of my continued employment as clearly as he could, and I refused to accept them.
 
It took me a week to get through these two threads, and I loved every moment of it.

Tom, I myself am an ex-writer (although in a different area entirely) and I understand all too well what you went through. I was never anywhere close to your level of success, although looking back I did some things I am proud of, and it was a heck of an interesting ride.

I quit when I woke up one morning and realized that I didn't give a darn if I ever wrote again. The fire had died. So I walked away.

(Ironically, I quit playing music to start writing, and not long after quitting writing I started playing music again after 15 years away. But enough about me.)

Thanks for this thread, and I'll be one of the first in line to buy the book when it's released.
 
It took me a week to get through these two threads, and I loved every moment of it.

Tom, I myself am an ex-writer (although in a different area entirely) and I understand all too well what you went through. I was never anywhere close to your level of success, although looking back I did some things I am proud of, and it was a heck of an interesting ride.

I quit when I woke up one morning and realized that I didn't give a darn if I ever wrote again. The fire had died. So I walked away.

(Ironically, I quit playing music to start writing, and not long after quitting writing I started playing music again after 15 years away. But enough about me.)

Thanks for this thread, and I'll be one of the first in line to buy the book when it's released.
Thanks very much. The book will be a great read. I promise.

I still love writing, but after this book is published I'm going to turn to fiction and self-publish. The old-school method of publishing is simply moribund. Too many fingers in the pie, too many stupid decisions, and no respect whatsoever for the author. I don't need my butt kissed, but I'd like my messages answered once in a while. You know, messages like, "Did you get my manuscript?" "Are you going to publish an e-book or not?" "Since you're you're not answering me, can I go ahead and publish my own e-book, or will you sue me?"

To get anything done, you have to threaten people. I don't like that. I've spent fifty years in a state of conflict with everyone and everything, including myself. When this book is published, I enter a new phase of my life.

Captain of my own ship of destiny. At peace with everyone and everything, through the simple expedient of having nothing to do with anyone at all except myself and whomever wants to buy my e-books.

No more conflict. I can't tell you how much I look forward to that.
 
The cover art has been approved. My brother, Tim Wictor, did it.
 

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